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Matt Trump
08-24-2004, 11:41 PM
http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2004/08/24/news/top_news/e229e5e72da6cf3f86256efa004aa586.txt


Divide and conquer? Police look for ways to control Homecoming crowds

By JON ERICSON, Courier Staff Writer

CEDAR FALLS --- Massive crowds on College Hill at the past few University of Northern Iowa Homecoming events worry Cedar Falls Police.

Police Chief Rick Ahlstrom says the crowds last year in the 2200 block of College Street were much larger than in 1996, the year Cedar Falls gained national notoriety when drunken revelers flipped cars and threw bricks and bottles at police.

"The crowds are getting larger, particularly the last two years," Ahlstrom told a City Council committee Monday. "If we stick with the status quo, we will have problems at some point."



Following the 1996 riot, several measures were taken to help prevent its recurrence. The 2200 block of College Street was blocked off on Homecoming night, and no cars were permitted to park there. Crowd control training and tactics were emphasized and the police beefed up staffing with assistance from the Iowa State Patrol and the UNI Department of Public Safety.

UNI Homecoming is the weekend of Oct. 9.

This year, the police plan to try several new measures to help prevent a problem.

One such idea is putting a 20-foot-wide rectangular concrete barricade down the middle of the 2200 block of College Street. Police would be allowed inside, but the public would not. The barrier would split the street and reduce the crowd density.

Ahlstrom acknowledged the barrier would move the crowd farther north on College Street, but said it would also break up the crowd in more open space.

The city will also install new brighter, whiter lighting in the commercial section of College Hill. Those lights will assist with four new video cameras the police department purchased to mount high above the Hill. Ahlstrom said the idea there is to make sure the partiers know they're being watched. He wants it to serve as a deterrent to supposedly anonymous crowd behavior, as well as assist in prosecuting law breakers.

Last year the police had an incident Ahlstrom feared would lead to a larger disturbance. Near the Chinese restaurant on College Street a crowd threw rocks and bottles at police officers. Police wound up using pepper spray on several hundred people to get out of that area. However, the incident didn't blow up into further problems.

According to Ahlstrom, the city needed to look at some more measures to ensure a relatively quiet Homecoming.

Adding a fire truck

Another change will be locating a fire truck on College Hill. It will serve two purposes --- close proximity in case a fire breaks out in the commercial district and the ability to spray a mist over the crowd for control if needed.

Councilman Kamyar Enshayan said the university and city should look at some ways to spread out the crowds.

"If you want fewer people there, we should probably look to have different events at the same time," Enshayan said.

He talked about having bands at different locations around campus to create several smaller crowds.

UNI tried alcohol-free events following the 1996 disturbance, but attendance was disappointing.

UNI Student President Brendon Moe attended the committee meeting and thought it would be difficult to draw crowds away from College Hill.

"Right now it's hard for the university to sponsor an event that has alcohol, so it would be hard to move it," Moe said.

Cedar Falls typically arrests two non-students for every student arrested Homecoming weekend.

"UNI students are not the problem," Ahlstrom said. "Others driving in here from around the state or out of state cause the problems."

Matt Trump
08-24-2004, 11:52 PM
Sounds like they are taking a more proactive approach and actually informing the public of what they might do so there are no surprises. I like this method rather than the wait and see. There is nothing in the world like Homecoming in Cedar Falls, but it does get to be a dangerous situation and I am glad to see that the police are actually trying to work with the community to quell any future problems. Although I did find the idea of the concrete barrier in the middle of college st a little wierd. Wouldn't the police be trapping themselves in the crowd? The firehose to establish crowd control was pretty funny. I can see them spraying the crowd with water and hundres of students sliding down the hill due to the combination of water and filth. This mixture would make a slick enough surface required for drunk sliding.

Newsbreaker
08-25-2004, 11:17 AM
The good ol CFPD, I could tell you stories...

The fire truck is probably smart, but that concrete barrier? 20 feet wide??? That's the whole dang street, what a moron approach. They need to learn to deal with the fact that people are going to show up in mass numbers, and that there is little to no stopping that. Forcing them further up (and down) the hill only spreads out the lack of control. Now you'll have people spilling down 23rd street (towards the book store and towards Olive) and down 22nd towards the Stein. Congratulations, you've just made your problem grow to 4 streets, not just 1 block.

Last year was the first time I really thought something bad could happen, and it was because everyone was overly nervous and on edge because of a greater (more visibly present) police presence. I'm sorry, but college kids are going to drink, and on HC weekend they're going to start at 7am, and by 10pm there are going to be hundreds if not thousands of drunks. If police in riot gear are going to stand around, those kids are going to give them what they think they want. The perceived threat of force only makes those kids think they need to strike first.

UNIpanther99
08-25-2004, 12:00 PM
here's a solution... DON'T CLOSE THE BARS EARLY.

It's really not as complicated as they try to make it out to be. And to blame what happened in 1996 on anything other than that stupid decision, is revisionist history.

panther2317
08-25-2004, 01:43 PM
Is how the city of Cedar Falls continues to try and bite the hand that feeds them. Here's a quick little news flash for them...eh hem...YOU'RE A COLLEGE TOWN!!!!! You live off of the students and alumni who continue to spend their cash there every year!!!!

You would think that the city would be extatic that thousands of people were coming to their town to spend money, stay in hotels and consume food and beverages. But it seems like they want to deter people from coming back and being a part of ALL Homecoming festiviites.


Homecoming last year...I was on the Hill last year and it was wild, but nothing too terrible. My guess is that if the city embraced the fact that there will be a ton of people on College St. that night and did something else proactive like setting up food and beverage stands, blocking off traffic on College St. from University to 18th, etc. (much like Sturgis Falls) and making it a celebration, that things would be lively, but not rowdy.

Finally, I have a tip for drunk college kids...if a girl wants to "go wild" and take off her top...DO NOT GROPE HER!!!!! Let her show her world to all of Cedar Falls...but don't PAW at her...that's just not cool.

igo4uni
08-25-2004, 09:32 PM
Are there a lot of girls showing off their assets on the hill during homecoming??

If so, I may have to show up to investigate :)

peace

igo4uni

panther2317
08-26-2004, 12:22 PM
I don't want to promote the "showing off of assets", but as I walked up and down the Hill last year...some portions could have been considered a commerical for Girls Gone Wild. Now that I'm married...I don't know howmuch I'll get to enjoy the view :(

My tip from the previous post stands...if girls do...DON'T GRAB...just let everyone enjoy the show!

Matt Trump
08-26-2004, 01:04 PM
I have a tip for drunk college kids...if a girl wants to "go wild" and take off her top...DO NOT GROPE HER!!!!! Let her show her world to all of Cedar Falls...but don't PAW at her...that's just not cool.


That is what bothers me the most about homecoming. Everyone just stands around waiting for something to happen, then off goes a top and there are 15 sets of hands going for the goods. Kind of disturbing...

My guess is that if the city embraced the fact that There will be a ton of people on College St. that night and did something else proactive like setting up food and beverage stands, blocking off traffic on College St. from University to 18th, etc. (much like Sturgis Falls) and making it a celebration, that things would be lively, but not rowdy.

I also like the idea of being proactive and setting up food stands like sturgis falls. A lot of people could cash in that weekend with all of the drunk people around. Maybe line up vendors along the parking lots of 22nd St. That would thin out the crowd being a place for people to go. The reason the Hill is overcrowded is a) because thats where everyone wants to be and b) because there are not a lot of other places to go that night when you are drunk unless you want to get arrested (other than a house party, which you very well could there too).

But this is not going to happen unless the College Hill Neighborhood of Cedar Falls embraces UNI like it should. Most of the adults that live there can't stand the students and fail to realize that the kids living there are helping to pay property taxes that go to the city, keeping Cedar Falls Utilities thriving (which provides local competition that lowers prices), shopping at local businesses, etc.

Newsbreaker
08-27-2004, 10:43 AM
When I was involved with NISG a few years ago, I floated this idea. The general consensus was that neither the city, nor the University would go for it.

My idea was to put a stage (probably nothing more then a flat-bed semi-trailer) in the middle of the intersection of College and 23rd (by Copyworks, pointed down the Hill). Get a variety of bands, not neccesarily anyone "national" (though that would be very cool). You set up some food vendors down at the bottom of the Hill (Between 22nd and 20th streets), maybe even a small carnival or something on 22nd in front of the Stein, behind the bookstore. If need be, fence the whole thing off and check ID's on the way in, and have a beer tent or something like Sturgis Falls does...thusly turning it into a community celebration more then just drunks running around.

What everyone said is essentially this:

The City doesn't want to 'sponsor' homecomeing (or at least the Hill's portion of it) in any way. The University will never sponosor any alcohol-related HC activity (including the Hill/ie, the bars) and will only work with efforts to draw people OFF the Hill, rather then making the Hill a safer/better environment.

panther2317
08-27-2004, 12:41 PM
I think that's a great idea! Bands would be great and would get people to that area (which would make the Hill businesses happy) and wouldn't need to be alcoholic. What are we telling people if the University won't sponsor a Homecoming Event if there is alcohol anywhere near it? It's like ignoring the fact that many of your students, alumni and employees might have a drink during the Homecoming fastivities.

Making things better/safer is the only way to go so that EVERYONE profits and has a good time.

In a time when the school needs to do everything it can to bring in additional revenue streams, you would think they would be open to ideas of partnering with College Hill businesses and the city to promote a FUN and SAFE atmosphere that people can CHOOSE to either comsume or not consume alcohol.

Cedar Falls sponsors "Sturgis Falls" and it's a HUGE drunk fest....but I'm sure there are families as well as individuals who take in the festivities and don't drink.

I think both the University and the city are missing the boat here. Showing the force of the CF PD is not going to calm people down...that will add fuel to the fire.

I was present at the riots in 1996...and things were going just fine until some people showed up in riot gear.

FIL13
08-27-2004, 04:41 PM
I too enjoyed the riots of 96...shutting the bars down early was the real culprit. not a lack of crowd control tactics or anything else. the city made a bad call and us students may have been out of line but it still could have been avoided. All of my homecoming expreiences since have been enjoyable and the showing of "assets" has been a nice addition to the expreirence.

Matt Trump
08-27-2004, 11:02 PM
Iowa State has their homecoming that weekend, so I think that will cut down a little bit of the incoming crowd to Cedar Falls.

Newsbreaker
08-28-2004, 12:49 PM
Iowa's homecoming was the same weekend as UNI's last year, and the crowd was as big (or bigger) then I've ever seen before. In many cases, UNI's homecoming has become notorious enough that kids at Iowa or ISU go to their homecoming game and then drive to CF for our festivities. Kinda nice UNI gets to be the 'hot spot' once a year.

Priorbelief22
08-29-2004, 10:36 PM
last yr the showing of the assets seemed to be less than the yr before. everytime i saw someone do it the cops were there to take the female off of the shoulders of other people. they cause more problems than they stop in my eyes. the CF cops really seem to enjoy cutting down on college kids having a good time and not hurting any one.