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  • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

    Originally posted by dan_beeding View Post
    http://shockernet.net/forum/showthre...troversy/page3

    Start at page one-- from "none of this happened," to attacking the reporter and calling it a non-issue. Imagine if McDermott when CU was in the valley or Jacobson's wife did something like this and it was getting national headlines-- the pearl clutching would be at obnoxious levels in Wichita.
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    LOL at "pearl clutching". I've never heard that before. And you're right.

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    • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

      I find it interesting that the usual Wichita st guys are not here with their take, which I assume would be to deny, followed by it's not important, followed by attacking the messenger.
      I am always amazed at their speedy responses when someone even mentions the Shockers on a post. They must spend some serious time on message boards. I can't imagine this is the only opposing website they are reading.
      "My role is to lead, plain and simple. . . .I with the help of my staff and our administration, we will lead." --Ben Jacobson

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      • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

        I find it quite entertaining that their posters were concerned about the optics associated with the title of the thread on ShockerNet. What they were saying leads me to believe that they honestly think that ShockerNet is a legitimate source of WSU information and that if they had a thread titled "Lynn Controversy" on ShockerNet that it would be published in the New York Times, ESPN, and on the NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt.

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        • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

          BTW, I live and work in CT and my boss is a 40 year-old female that lives in NYC and absolutely hates college basketball. Within 15 minutes of her arrival to work this morning she mentioned an article about Gregg's wife. I think that's evidence enough a good amount of damage has been done no matter whether this is true or not.

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          • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

            It's clearly true, but who is damaged? The WSU faithful are like the Clinton or Trump faithful, they'll allow almost anything by their guy/gal and his/her team and pass it off as nothing to see here.

            Could it damage Greg's shot at a job like Indiana? Sure it could some, but I imagine spousal behavior at games is pretty far down the list of criteria ADs are using to evaluate prospects. And we will never know if he had a shot at any open jobs anyway, so we'll never know if it hurt. He's set financially and otherwise at WSU to the point I don't think he'd consider any jobs other than the true blue bloods. If WSU is able to move up in conference quality that will be even more true.
            GO PANTHERS!

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            • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

              Originally posted by Codytwo View Post
              I find it quite entertaining that their posters were concerned about the optics associated with the title of the thread on ShockerNet. What they were saying leads me to believe that they honestly think that ShockerNet is a legitimate source of WSU information and that if they had a thread titled "Lynn Controversy" on ShockerNet that it would be published in the New York Times, ESPN, and on the NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt.
              Lol, I saw that. Like, if you're trying to look professional or whatever, the title of the thread is not the place to start. Start with, oh, I don't know, acknowledging the problem instead of trying to place blame on the reporter. That's probably better for your optics.

              It'll be real funny to me if the AAC ends up not taking them because of this. There's no way that the coaches wife being a drunken **** would be a deal breaker, but I can dream, can't I?

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              • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

                jees, there's more conspiracy theorists with this than the Kennedy assassination.

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                • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

                  Any press is good press, right? This article from a British tabloid, with just the right amount of hyperbole

                  After the Shockers' crushing loss to Kentucky, Lynn Marshall was escorted from Bankers Life Fieldhouse in Indianapolis by security guards after she started loudly cursing.

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                  • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

                    Originally posted by Trapped in California View Post
                    Any press is good press, right? This article from a British tabloid, with just the right amount of hyperbole

                    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...CTED-game.html
                    They obviously cover European soccer, so they have experience with such matters.

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                    • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

                      So over at the Redbird forum, they're wondering how they should get out of the MVC, now that WSU is leaving. Maybe they should worry about, I don't know, say, making the tournament for the first time in 20 years before worrying about how to move up a conference.

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                      • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

                        Originally posted by sevelev711 View Post
                        So over at the Redbird forum, they're wondering how they should get out of the MVC, now that WSU is leaving. Maybe they should worry about, I don't know, say, making the tournament for the first time in 20 years before worrying about how to move up a conference.
                        They're right. We need to be on the same train.

                        #MACtion
                        #MACtion

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                        • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

                          Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                          They're right. We need to be on the same train.

                          #MACtion
                          Agree. Weeknight football wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, IMO. I haven't been to a game in the Dome in 5+ years despite living in 15 minutes away. For a casual football fan, I have a hard time giving up a Saturday during the fall when there are only limited days of warm weather left. I rarely even consider getting a ticket and going to the game. If the game was on a weeknight, I would probably attend a couple per year just due to it being more convenient. Others will disagree and I'm sure I'm in the minority with that statement, but I can understand the issues for fans traveling from out of town or fans with kids in school that weeknights aren't a great option.

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                          • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

                            Originally posted by hoopfan View Post
                            Agree. Weeknight football wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, IMO. I haven't been to a game in the Dome in 5+ years despite living in 15 minutes away. For a casual football fan, I have a hard time giving up a Saturday during the fall when there are only limited days of warm weather left. I rarely even consider getting a ticket and going to the game. If the game was on a weeknight, I would probably attend a couple per year just due to it being more convenient. Others will disagree and I'm sure I'm in the minority with that statement, but I can understand the issues for fans traveling from out of town or fans with kids in school that weeknights aren't a great option.
                            Well I can assure you that your are in the extreme minority with that preference.

                            Tues and Wed night football would destroy football at UNI. Even last year with a 5-6 record, we had 10-12K people at every game with a lot of good tailgating. Weeknight game we have eliminated tailgating, and can expect 3-4K people in the stands. Would ruin football at UNI and all but eliminate one of the pillars of fan involvement, fundraising, and general interest of our entire AD.
                            UNI FIGHT

                            Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
                            iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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                            • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

                              Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                              They're right. We need to be on the same train.

                              #MACtion
                              MAC would be a huge step down from a basketball point of view, though. They haven't had multiple bids since 1999. That's a looooong time. It's not that the MVC specifically is getting screwed by the committee, it's that mid-majors as whole have been getting shafted, and it's going to keep trending that way. That's way I don't see the long term planning in Wichita going to AAC. The AAC is not a conference that's built to last. Hell, how many teams threw there hat into the Big XII expansion ring? I know Houston and Cinci did for sure, meanwhile UConn is trying to make a push for the Big East, dropping their football to FCS a la Villanova.

                              Secondly, I'm making fun of them for saying that thinking that they deserve better than the MVC, despite not making the tournament in 20 years, and never making it to the second weekend, and I'll say the same thing about anyone thinking that we deserve better, either. The best our football team has done is losing the championship game ten years ago, and the basketball team has only made it to the second weekend of the tournament once, and has only made the tournament a grand total of eight times. And we're two years out from making it again (unless WSU leaves before next season, which I don't think will happen). What the hell have we done to get to move up a rung?

                              And thirdly where can we move up to? Here's a list of conferences that are considered an improvement to the MVC from a hoops perspective: A-10, AAC, ACC, B1G, Big East, Big XII, Pac-12, SEC. Let's immidiately cross out six, as we aren't ever going to be P5, and since we're a public school, we aren't going to go Big East. That leaves the A-10 and AAC. Those two are it. Which both are going to be at an even number of teams once WSU goes to AAC. They would both require an insane amount of travel, AAC would be hopping up to FBS, and A-10 would require ditching football (or keeping it, but finding somewhere else to go with it). We don't have the budget to recruit in any state that isn't touching Iowa, you think we have the budget for all of our teams needing to travel to Richmond or Orlando?

                              Wichita has both the resume and the budget to get to go to a better conference, we have neither. We're not going to get an invite to a better conference anytime soon, nor should we. The only way we get into a better conference is if we tear it up in basketball, like WSU, or in football, like NDSU, and even then, it's no guarantee. We're not the only school wanting to move. The MVC is the best realistic situation for us right now. So let's win this conference and hope the mainstays of the past (SIU, Brad, MSU, ISUBlue) get their **** together at some point.

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                              • Re: Wichita State 2016-17

                                Originally posted by 06panther10 View Post
                                Well I can assure you that your are in the extreme minority with that preference.

                                Tues and Wed night football would destroy football at UNI. Even last year with a 5-6 record, we had 10-12K people at every game with a lot of good tailgating. Weeknight game we have eliminated tailgating, and can expect 3-4K people in the stands. Would ruin football at UNI and all but eliminate one of the pillars of fan involvement, fundraising, and general interest of our entire AD.
                                I agree.

                                However, the Tuesdays/Wednesdays are only in Late October and November when tailgating dies down anyway. We'd still play on Saturday when the weather is nice. The other factor is with the TV money that we'd get, the numbers in the stands would matter far less, even though you're absolutely right that it would kill atmosphere...
                                #MACtion

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