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Old 10-04-2014, 04:50 PM   #1
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Old 10-04-2014, 05:28 PM   #2
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I think they have a right to be upset but the reality is that they are always going to be 2nd fiddle in that conference. I'm not suggesting any type of shadowy dealing within the conference but this is going to fall on deaf ears beyond the fine he receives.

Overall I think he actually handled that alright and seemed pretty calm and sincere.
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The B12 should issue an apology for allowing an abysmal program like ISU to stay in the conference.

How many ridiculously embarrassing high profile coaches and AD's can we get in this state? Jacobson, Hoiberg, and Dannen are about the only admirable ones left IMO.
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What is the "we we're the only yes vote" issue he mentions?
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Replacing Walt Coleman as director of football officials.

Coleman has two degrees from Texas and was a booster until he got the job.
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Replacing Walt Coleman as director of football officials.

Coleman has two degrees from Texas and was a booster until he got the job.
Ah, thanks. Now Pollard's comments make some sense. Does anyone with objectivity give them any merit? Anyone involved with Cyclone fanatic doesn't count.
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Iowa State's dine nothing in their athletic history to earn the benefit of the doubt.

They're just damn lucky that Texas decided to keep them around.
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Ah, thanks. Now Pollard's comments make some sense. Does anyone with objectivity give them any merit? Anyone involved with Cyclone fanatic doesn't count.
I'll cut them some slack. They've gotten screwed a number of times in football and basketball over the last 1-2 years where it seems to be a big abnormal. And we aren't talking about 50-50 calls either.

Did anyone see the reversed call today? That was unreal. And let me please emphasize that I love watching the Clones squirm and whine every year as they slip deeper into the abyss.

But BC is right. Besides some decent success in basketball they are a bottom of the rung team that is kept around because the conference needs a punching bag and doesn't have a legitimate way of disposing of them. If ISU said, " that's the last straw, we're taking our ball and leaving" the Big XII wouldn't give two $***s

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I think they have a right to be upset but the reality is that they are always going to be 2nd fiddle in that conference.
9th or 10th fiddle is more like it.
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Did anyone see the reversed call today? That was unreal.
Not only would I question if that was a touchdown, but the fact that they also decided that one yard run play took 11 seconds (no time left in the half). That showed that the replay officials were absolutely NOT doing their job properly.
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Not only would I question if that was a touchdown, but the fact that they also decided that one yard run play took 11 seconds (no time left in the half). That showed that the replay officials were absolutely NOT doing their job properly.
I could understand if the original call was a TD, and then decided there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it. They completely screwed that one up, there's almost NO way you can look at that video and definitively say he crossed the goal line
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I could understand if the original call was a TD, and then decided there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it. They completely screwed that one up, there's almost NO way you can look at that video and definitively say he crossed the goal line
You are correct. There is nobody that could definitely say it was a touchdown. It probably was...but nobody would bet their paycheck on it.

I just watched the video, I was wrong. There were 7 seconds when they snapped the ball. There is clearly 5 seconds left when he 'crossed the goal line'. The official were in way too much of a hurry to give a touchdown to OSU and apparently did not care about the clock. Awesome. Look for another Big12 'explanation/apology'.

If football wanted, they could eliminate the referee on those calls. Same with baseball strikes/balls calls. But, I think fans like the idea that maybe their team might get that undeserved touchdown/strike out call.
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[QUOTE=BCPanther;388758]Iowa State's dine nothing in their athletic history to earn the benefit of the doubt.

They're just damn lucky that Texas decided to keep them around.[/QUOTE

So only historically strong athletic programs deserve the benefit of the doubt in your opinion?
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Everybody deserves a fair shot, but we all know it doesn't work that way.
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I was at the very first (modern era) UNI/ISU game. As far as I'm concerned they can never get screwed enough by the refs to make up for that theft.
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Everybody deserves a fair shot, but we all know it doesn't work that way.
Especially when you throw a public temper tantrum.
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Especially when you throw a public temper tantrum.
You honestly think that was a "temper tantrum"? Give me a break.
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Sorry but you tend to get less favorable judgement when your program has a reputation of constantly whining. You know, the whole boy who cried wolf thing... we all know Rhoads and Pollard have about as much emotional constraint as a 3 year old child.
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Sorry but you tend to get less favorable judgement when your program has a reputation of constantly whining. You know, the whole boy who cried wolf thing... we all know Rhoads and Pollard have about as much emotional constraint as a 3 year old child.
I don't know what you are talking about?

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I was at the very first (modern era) UNI/ISU game. As far as I'm concerned they can never get screwed enough by the refs to make up for that theft.
You couldn't be more correct. Never saw anything like that before or since.
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I don't know what you are talking about?
I think only you can answer that question.
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hey POLLACK wanna schedule NDSU again? hahahaha.
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Iowa State's dine nothing in their athletic history to earn the benefit of the doubt.

They're just damn lucky that Texas decided to keep them around.[/QUOTE

So only historically strong athletic programs deserve the benefit of the doubt in your opinion?
That's kind of the whole gist of Pollard's argument. Apparently it does exist with people because we're seeing it here on the board of an FCS school. Anyone who thinks a school doesn't get close calls because they're a "name" or more highly thought of is kidding themselves. Pollard was just honest/crazy enough to say it out loud.
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Replacing Walt Coleman as director of football officials.

Coleman has two degrees from Texas and was a booster until he got the job.
Pollard says in the video the ISU lone vote was in favor of adding an extra referee in Big 12 games, not about replacing a Texas grad as supervisor of officials.
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hey POLLACK wanna schedule NDSU again? hahahaha.

After that performance in Macomb, the Bizon don't seem quite as fierce.
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Pollard says in the video the ISU lone vote was in favor of adding an extra referee in Big 12 games, not about replacing a Texas grad as supervisor of officials.
That makes no sense. The Big XII was the first conference to experiment with adding the 8th official last year, and now all conferences are doing it this year (the center judge behind the offense, opposite side of the QB from the referee).

Did they want a 9th official? Unless he's suspending by wires above the field, I don't know where you would put him.
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Pollard says in the video the ISU lone vote was in favor of adding an extra referee in Big 12 games, not about replacing a Texas grad as supervisor of officials.
Why would that vote lead to a backlash from the conference leadership and officials? I don't see the plausible conspiracy.
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That makes no sense. The Big XII was the first conference to experiment with adding the 8th official last year, and now all conferences are doing it this year (the center judge behind the offense, opposite side of the QB from the referee).

Did they want a 9th official? Unless he's suspending by wires above the field, I don't know where you would put him.
It makes no sense because you have it incorrect. Iowa State was the lone vote against adding the eighth official. I think their vote was perceived (perhaps from comments made before the vote) that the way the Big XII officials ran things, that adding another official would not help.
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It makes no sense because you have it incorrect. Iowa State was the lone vote against adding the eighth official. I think their vote was perceived (perhaps from comments made before the vote) that the way the Big XII officials ran things, that adding another official would not help.
Then it's misleading by Pollard, CPR or anyone else to say that simply voting against an 8th official has caused backlash. Sounds like they were calling into question the integrity of the league and the officiating by casting that vote. And if that is truly the case I can see why there might be some hard feelings over that.
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I respect UNI more than the CyClowns.
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Then it's misleading by Pollard, CPR or anyone else to say that simply voting against an 8th official has caused backlash. Sounds like they were calling into question the integrity of the league and the officiating by casting that vote. And if that is truly the case I can see why there might be some hard feelings over that.
Yes. He was very misleading, if I understand things correctly. But perhaps Pollard did say something to that effect and I don't know about it.

I'm not really big into officials deciding to punish a player or team, though. It's extremely hard to watch that "touchdown" and explain how the call was overturned. It's things like that that cause these kind of accusations.
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all the ball had to do was touch the white line...period. thats why it was a Touchdown. why the *****fest?
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all the ball had to do was touch the white line...period. thats why it was a Touchdown. why the *****fest?
Thank you for the clarification of the touchdown rule. I'm sure Iowa State and I did not know that.

Also....because the camera was not at the goal line. It would be different if you could actually tell if the ball was "touching" the line.
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Yes. He was very misleading, if I understand things correctly. But perhaps Pollard did say something to that effect and I don't know about it.

I'm not really big into officials deciding to punish a player or team, though. It's extremely hard to watch that "touchdown" and explain how the call was overturned. It's things like that that cause these kind of accusations.
Never should have been overturned. Had the original call been TD I would say the same thing. No proof either way to overturn the call on the field. It does smell funny when most refs are so conservative in their replay rulings.
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