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Old 11-19-2011, 09:07 PM   #1
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Default December 3rd

In looking at the schedule on 12/3 we have:

-The UNI Open(wrestling) scheduled for all day in the Dome
-Basketball in the McLeod 7pm vs. CSU
-The potential for hosting VB in the McLeod
-Likely football game in the Dome

See no way they can move the UNI Open, so it would look like a home playoff game in football would need to be at night. So we could have a BB and and FB game going on at the same time? That will be a crazy Saturday.
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Volleyball could be Thurday Friday, Friday Saturday, or Saturday Sunday I believe, Jay help me out on this. Hope for Thursday Friday

Wrestling Early

Football Kickoff at 7:00

Basketball at 1:00 am did it before might as well do it again.
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So would wrestling be done by 5:00-5:30? I honestly have no idea how long these wrestling opens take.
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How many mats is the UNI wrestling open?
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How many mats is the UNI wrestling open?
I want to say they have 8 mats, but it may be more. I believe it starts around 9am. I don't think they can lay the mats over a covered turf, but could be wrong and not sure when it should end, but I would think by 5pm.
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I want to say they have 8 mats, but it may be more. I believe it starts around 9am. I don't think they can lay the mats over a covered turf, but could be wrong and not sure when it should end, but I would think by 5pm.
They have put wrestling mats on top of the football field several times before, fwiw.


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They have put wrestling mats on top of the football field several times before, fwiw.
Has it been put on the new turf? I know they put it over the old stuff.
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Has it been put on the new turf? I know they put it over the old stuff.
Yes.

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Hope this doesn't screw up hosting football. Any chance they end up with a Friday night football game?
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Hope this doesn't screw up hosting football. Any chance they end up with a Friday night football game?
The Quarters and Semis have Friday/Saturday games but not for the 2nd round. So not sure what the NCAA would do.
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The brackets say not until the next round.
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The NCAA site lists the first two rounds of the VB playoffs as taking place Dec. 1-4, which is thurs.-sun., though I believe the preference is for fri./sat.
they also require court availability for each team to have practice time (on the same court as the competition will be held), I believe both on the day before the first match, and the day of.

I had noticed some possible conflicts for court time in the McLeod when looking at the schedules in early october, so I had sent an inquiry to the athletic dept., and this is the response I had received:
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UNI plans to bid for 1st and 2nd rounds of the NCAA tournament again this year. Our team deserves the opportunity to host NCAAs in McLeod and we hope we are awarded a site.

We have contingency plans in place and have already discussed our plans for game time changes, etc. But you forgot to add a possible NCAA playoff football game in the UNI Dome to the list for that same weekend!
Though I'm not sure what those game time changes and contingency plans are exactly, hopefully they're still valid.

As for wrestling, is that held in the Dome, or do they do everything in the West Gym now?
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Old 11-19-2011, 09:41 PM   #13
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I'm wondering if they could have it at some place like Young Arena
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Wrestling moves to Sunday.

Volleyball plays Thursday/Friday

Football at 3:00

Basketball stays at 7:00

Most logical to me...
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I would ask the media relations crew if they knew anything about the situation at the press luncheon on Monday, but I don't think I'll be done with work early enough to make it.
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womens basketball has a home game scheduled for Thursday night at 7 p.m. vs. SEMO as welll
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Women's Basketball plays the super late shift on Thurs night. 8:30 tip again...

Or move to the West Gym...
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Women's Basketball plays the super late shift on Thurs night. 8:30 tip again...

Or move to the West Gym...
if the first round of VB was played on Thurs. night, the matches would be at 5 and 7/7:30, and thus a WBB game couldn't possibly start on the same court until after 9 at the earliest. My guess is that if VB does do the Th/F scenario, then the WBB game would move to the West Gym as they did for a game last year during the VB NCAA tourney.
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What I think we'll see:
Thurs: WBB in McLeod
Friday: NCAA VB in McLeod
Sat: UNI Open (West Gym all day, McLeod in AM---couldn't you separate weights a little for two separate locations?)
Football 1PM Kick
Volleyball 4PM 1st Serve in McLeod
Basketball 7:30PM in McLeod

Out of all the sports, I'm pretty sure you will either see wrestling moved to Sunday in the Dome, or it will be moved to the West Gym and McLeod Center (could NU be used?) on Saturday.
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:03 PM   #20
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Just some excerpts from the NCAA VB Championship Handbook regarding court availability requirements to keep in mind.

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The following criteria will be used in determining sites:
2. Exclusive availability of the facility for practice and competition. The facility must be exclusively available for four teams’ practice and competition during the following times:
a. Day before the match: From noon to 10 p.m., minimum of 11⁄2 hours of practice for each team.
b. First-round match day: One hour of practice for all teams competing that day.
c. Second-round match day: One hour of practice for the two teams.
d. Practices must end at least 11⁄2 hours before the start of the first match.
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Volleyball or Football, Volleyball or Football, Volleyball or Football.......I think the choice is pretty easy.
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:30 PM   #22
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Football game is set for 4 p.m. (CST)
wrestling has been moved to the West Gym.

So two sports announced thus far.

Mens Basketball game is still listed on the schedule for 7 pm, but that could still be moved possibly.

UNI has put in a bid for hosting the first weekend of the NCAA volleyball tourney, and I heard that the preference was for Fri./Sat. matches. not sure how that would work, unless basketball is moved.
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I would guess the MBB game would be moved to 8 PM, or possibly a noon tip.
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Basketball will move later. There is no way you get a team from out west to agree to an early afternoon tip.

I am thinking you push Friday Volleyball earlier in the day so that you can play the second round at 1:30 Saturday. According to the volleyball handbook you literally can't play basketball before volleyball...
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Basketball will move later. There is no way you get a team from out west to agree to an early afternoon tip.

I am thinking you push Friday Volleyball earlier in the day so that you can play the second round at 1:30 Saturday. According to the volleyball handbook you literally can't play basketball before volleyball...
VB tourney matches can't start before 4:30 pm on Friday.

my guess is either they're moving the mens game to Sunday, or they're going for Thurs./Fri. volleyball


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On the first day of competition during preliminary rounds, the first match must start between 4:30 and 6 p.m. with a minimum of two hours between all matches (e.g., 5:30 and 7:30 p.m.). The second match will start 30 minutes after the conclusion of the first match or the designated time, whichever is later. If the second day of competition is Friday, matches should start between 6:30 and 8:30 p.m. Saturday matches must start between 2 and 8 p.m. Sunday matches must start between 2 and 4 p.m.

Approximately 22 hours must be allocated between the scheduled start of the last first-round match and the start of the second-round match. The host team will play the second match at first- and second-round sites and regionals.

Any changes to match times or order must be approved by the Division I Women’s Volleyball Committee in advance of submitting a official bid to host.
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You are right Jay.

Volleyball has to be Thurs/Fri or the schedule doesn't work. Colorado State has had travel plans for months, probably can't be changed.

Volleyball- Thurs/Fri
Football- Saturday at 4:00
Basketball- Saturday at 7:30 or 8:00

Womens basketball moves to the West Gym on Thursday night. Probably early...
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You are right Jay.

Volleyball has to be Thurs/Fri or the schedule doesn't work. Colorado State has had travel plans for months, probably can't be changed.

Volleyball- Thurs/Fri
Football- Saturday at 4:00
Basketball- Saturday at 7:30 or 8:00

Womens basketball moves to the West Gym on Thursday night. Probably early...
that is one possible scenario.
but not the only one.

college teams adjust their travel plans all the time. they aren't set in stone.
and the UNI athletics dept. has known about the fairly good possibility of a FB playoff game and a VB tournament hosting possibility (along with the already scheduled MBB, WBB, and wrestling events) for at least a month and a half, and have had contingency plans in place for game time changes. So I'm sure they'll get things worked out.

And once those plans are revealed, I will applaud them, as it takes quite a bit of skill to juggle all those events.
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I'm almost positive that the mens basketball game will be held on Saturday night. Maybe with Wofford's ground game they figure the game won't take as long and thus move the volleyball game to 6:30 and then the basketball game to 9? This will be interesting to play out. I'm really surprised they didn't move the game up even 1 hour sooner.
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I'm almost positive that the mens basketball game will be held on Saturday night. Maybe with Wofford's ground game they figure the game won't take as long and thus move the volleyball game to 6:30 and then the basketball game to 9? This will be interesting to play out. I'm really surprised they didn't move the game up even 1 hour sooner.
Just reading all of the speculation, isn't it AWESOME, that all of our currently active sports have home "games/matches" on the SAME weekend, with TWO of those sports being in the playoffs?
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What is the requirement for practice for Volleyball on Saturday?

Your right a 1 or 2 or even 3 kickoff would make things easier. But maybe Troy has realized that UNI football doesn't play as well when the kickoff is before 4:00 in the Dome? If you don't believe me look it up, Delaware '07, Richmond '08, Lehigh '10, SIU '11, and I am sure their are many more.
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What is the requirement for practice for Volleyball on Saturday?

Your right a 1 or 2 or even 3 kickoff would make things easier. But maybe Troy has realized that UNI football doesn't play as well when the kickoff is before 4:00 in the Dome? If you don't believe me look it up, Delaware '07, Richmond '08, Lehigh '10, SIU '11, and I am sure their are many more.
Not just in the dome...but anywhere in general. 4 or 6 PM games have historically been real good to UNI football...other start times have not been as nice.

Dannen did what he needed to do to get the best chance for a W.
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What is the requirement for practice for Volleyball on Saturday?

Your right a 1 or 2 or even 3 kickoff would make things easier. But maybe Troy has realized that UNI football doesn't play as well when the kickoff is before 4:00 in the Dome? If you don't believe me look it up, Delaware '07, Richmond '08, Lehigh '10, SIU '11, and I am sure their are many more.
Richmond wasn't an early kick.
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It was at 3:00 instead of 4:00
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This is a logistical nightmare for the Athletics Dept. best of luck, there will be a lot of time on the phones getting the Dec 3rd weekend figured out and then making sure it all goes to plan. Resume material for those student interns!!
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This is a logistical nightmare for the Athletics Dept. best of luck, there will be a lot of time on the phones getting the Dec 3rd weekend figured out and then making sure it all goes to plan. Resume material for those student interns!!
We need to give props to all involved in this - from facilities staff - to Media Relations - coaches who are having their schedules adjusted - training staff- ticket staff -- etc. etc. etc. The price you pay for having successful programs -- I'm sure they wouldn't have it any other way!
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