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Old 10-01-2012, 08:01 AM   #1
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ESPN's '30 for 30' series of documentaries was recently posted on Netflix. For those, like myself, who have seen all of them, what are people's favorites? Just interested in hearing what other people liked... Also would like a new topic to try to forget about NDSU game.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:02 AM   #2
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4 days in October, Jordan rides the bus, catching hell are my favorites. And yeah, its pretty sweet that they're on netflix
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Unguarded (my hands down favorite)

The Fab Five
Winning Time: Reggie Miller vs. The New York Knicks
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Winning Time, Unguarded, The Two Escobar's, The Fab Five, The U!!!!! and Pony Excess. Catching Hell is also very well done.
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Reggie Miller v. Knicks
Pony Express
The U
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Winning Time Reggie vs Knicks
catching hell
Jordan rides the bus
I can't think of the name but its the one about sports agents. I liked that one also
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The Two Escobars, Pony Excess
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Vastly underrated is the one about Larry Holmes and Ali. I liked Larry before and liked him a whole lot more afterward.
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Hands down for me is, The Best That Never Was-The Marcus Dupree Story.

I'm kind of embarrassed to say that I've probably sen it 15 times already, and still watch it from beginning to end each time it comes on!
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Yes! The Marcus Dupree episode is like the Godfather I/II. Once it is on, I have to watch it all the way through.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:46 AM   #11
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Interesting that a lot of people like the ones outside of the true 30 for 30 canon, such as Renee, Catching Hell, the Fab Five, Unguarded, the Dotted Line, etc: those all came after the original 30 had all aired, but people must like those ones almost better than the originals.
A few that people forget about are:
Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL. Full of stuff I'm too young to remember, and really funny at a lot of points. Great interviews and information.
Into the Wind. Directed by Steve Nash; about a guy with a prosthetic leg trying to run across Canada; very emotional.
Once Brothers. Heartbreaking story of friends on the basketball court.

Hands down, the worst one was Unmatched, about Navratilova and Evert. Really lame and boring from start to finish. It was a chick-flick of a sports documentary. ESPN really forgot their audience on this one.
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Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL. Full of stuff I'm too young to remember, and really funny at a lot of points. Great interviews and information. Once Brothers. Heartbreaking story of friends on the basketball court.
Once Brothers is amazing and was just on the other day!! Not sure how I forgot about that one. Small Potatoes is awesome because it makes Trump look like a total ******bag. Another great one.

Anyone else excited for Broke? Looks intriguing, although it will probably sicken me as a poor college kid
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Was Renee a 30 for 30 program, though? I thought it was just a documentary but not under the umbrella of 30 for 30.

I can remember watching her play during her "heyday, and that was REALLY interesting at that time.
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i am looking forward to tonights.
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What is tonight's about?
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why pro athletes are broke so quickly
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I'm also looking forward to the one tonight. I have my DVR set.
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Was Renee a 30 for 30 program, though? I thought it was just a documentary but not under the umbrella of 30 for 30.

I can remember watching her play during her "heyday, and that was REALLY interesting at that time.
Technically, no it wasn’t, neither were “The Fab Five”, “Catching Hell”, “Unguarded”, etc. But considering they are under the same umbrella many count them as such. The 30 for 30 umbrella covers “30 for 30 Volume 1”, “ESPN Films Presents”, and “30 for 30 Volume 2”.


30 for 30 Volume 1

Overall Series No. Title
1 1 Kings Ransom
2 2 The Band that Wouldn't Die
3 3 Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL?
4 4 Muhammad and Larry
5 5 Without Bias
6 6 The Legend of Jimmy the Greek
7 7 The U
8 8 Winning Time: Reggie Miller vs. The New York Knicks
9 9 Guru of Go
10 10 No Crossover: The Trial of Allen Iverson
11 11 Silly Little Game
12 12 Run Ricky Run
13 13 The 16th Man
14 14 Straight Outta L.A.
15 15 June 17, 1994
16 16 The Two Escobars
17 17 The Birth of Big Air
18 18 Jordan Rides the Bus
19 19 Little Big Men
20 20 One Night in Vegas
21 21 Unmatched
22 22 The House of Steinbrenner
23 23 Into the Wind
24 24 Four Days In October
25 25 Once Brothers
26 26 Tim Richmond: To the Limit
27 27 Fernando Nation
28 28 Marion Jones: Press Pause
29 29 The Best That Never Was
30 30 Pony Excess


ESPN Films Presents:

Overall Series No. Title
31 1 The Fab Five
32 2 Catching Hell
33 3 Renée
34 4 The Dotted Line
35 5 Charismatic
36 6 The Real Rocky
37 7 Unguarded
38 8 Roll Tide/War Eagle
39 9 The Marinovich Project
40 10 Goose
41 11 The Announcement
42 12 26 Years: The Dewey Bozella Story
43 13 Right To Play


30 for 30 Volume 2

Overall Series No. Title
44 1 Broke
45 2 9.79
46 3 There's No Place Like Home
47 4 Benji
48 5 Ghosts of Ole Miss
49 6 You Don't Know Bo
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Guru of Go is also a great, underrated 30 for 30. As someone who knew nothing about Paul Westhead and Loyola-Marymount going into it, it was pretty moving and emotional. Highly recommend it.
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I also really enjoyed The Marinovich Project and thought The Announcement was good, but could have been done better.
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Well that was one of the worst 30 for 30's I've seen. Terrible format and flow. This topic could have been great, but was horribly produced and written.
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yeah that was meh
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Stopped watching and switched over to watch former UNI golfer Derek Bohlen on the Golf Channel's "Biggest Break" Greenbrier. Unfortunately, he was the first contestant to get eliminated. Regardless, hope he can one day make it to the PGA Tour.
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Stopped watching and switched over to watch former UNI golfer Derek Bohlen on the Golf Channel's "Biggest Break" Greenbrier. Unfortunately, he was the first contestant to get eliminated. Regardless, hope he can one day make it to the PGA Tour.
Yeah, my wife sure called that shot!

She saw an interview with Bohlen a week or so ago, and, of course, he couldn't reveal to ANYONE how the show turned out. However, she told me that, "you could just tell by the interview and how happy he was that he won it."

First one eliminated...good call, honey.
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I've seen just about all of the recent ESPN films and loved nearly every one of the them, if I had to pick a top five...

5. The Fab Five
4. The U
3. The Marinovich Project
2. Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL?
1. Winning Time: Reggie Miller vs. the New York Knicks

I'm also really looking forward to 9.79 and You Don't Know Bo. The 9.79 trailer was the best movie tease I've probably ever seen.
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Broke was terrible.
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Now that's how you do a 30 for 30.

9.79 was very good and makes Broke look even more like a giant steaming pile of poo. I also thought it made Carl Lewis look even more unlikable. Wow what a very creepy and shady coach he had. Every thing Carl and his coach did or didn't do make him look very suspect. Very solid episode.
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Yeah, I've always like Carl Lewis but that was an interesting portrayal. Ben Johnson and Calvin Smith were pretty interesting fellows as well. Smith just seemed a little creepy and arrogant (although not on the level of Lewis).
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I've really enjoyed this series. However, I'm surprised when I see the list of how many I haven't even heard of.

My favorites:

1. The U
2. Four Days in October
3. Who Killed the USFL
4. The Marinovich Project
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What's tonight's episode about?
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Benji: Highly talented basketball player who (SPOILER ALERT!!!)












Tragically dies before being to live up to his high potential (at least that's what I've inferred from the commercials)

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Isn't this basically the same story that we saw in Without Bias, The Guru of Go, and Once Brothers,
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Finally got around to watching it today. If you're going to classify all of those together then I'd put it above Without Bias but below Guru of Go and Once Brothers.

Honestly I think they're all different with their own tragedies and powerful lessons. When looking at the way each one died the differences are obvious (a murder, a drug overdose, a car accident and the enlarged heart) but I can see what you are getting at in that most of the stories revolve around the tragic death of a young star who had not yet reached his full potential.

Once Brothers is centered much more around the friendship and falling out of Drazen and Divac but the death of Drazen is still big part of that story, obviously.

Guru of Go focused on this radical new style of offense from Westhead and how surprisingly effective it was...but the death of Gathers derailed the whole thing. Once again the focus was not nearly so much on the death but it becomes an obvious part of the story. Btw, this has to be one of the most powerful and tragic episodes of the series. No one was really at fault, no one knew about the enlarged heart and everything happens right there on the court...just wow.

Bias' death was completely preventable and in a way self-inflicted since it was a drug overdose. Overall the story focuses completely on the death of Bias but also the reactions and how this helped changed ideas on recreational drug use, particularly among athletes.

Benji falls more into line with "Without Bias". They build up more of the background story because for the most part this incident isn't as widely known. The death and reaction takes up a smaller portion of the documentary but the idea that we lost an incredible athlete before seeing what he was capable of is the central theme, much like with Len Bias. I think the big thing with Benji is how the community reacted to his death and the fact that it was completely senseless and preventable. Ben Wilson was just another victim of gang violence in Chicago but it took someone who had such a large presence and celebrity status in the community to really wake people up as to what was happening. I think what happened after his death with his mother's resilience and Billy Moore's own confession of the murder was one of the bigger messages of the documentary. I have never seen someone admit to a murder before, that kind of left me in shock.

Anyway, I've rambled. Benji was good, not great. Anyone know what's next up on the block? I haven't paid attention lately
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Ghosts of Ole Miss is next. Haven't seen any previews, but I know that's the next one.
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Benji falls more into line with "Without Bias". They build up more of the background story because for the most part this incident isn't as widely known. The death and reaction takes up a smaller portion of the documentary but the idea that we lost an incredible athlete before seeing what he was capable of is the central theme, much like with Len Bias. I think the big thing with Benji is how the community reacted to his death and the fact that it was completely senseless and preventable. Ben Wilson was just another victim of gang violence in Chicago but it took someone who had such a large presence and celebrity status in the community to really wake people up as to what was happening. I think what happened after his death with his mother's resilience and Billy Moore's own confession of the murder was one of the bigger messages of the documentary. I have never seen someone admit to a murder before, that kind of left me in shock.

Anyway, I've rambled. Benji was good, not great. Anyone know what's next up on the block? I haven't paid attention lately
I have yet to watch this, but thanks for the synopsis. I can tell you the that people around here still talk about his story. Sure, part of it is bound to be embellished given the circumstances, but I get the impression he was an icon in the making. Those in the know, as far as I can tell, mention him in the same way as Derek Rose, and that's absurdly good...like Jordan and Kobe good. There are a couple of ex Panthers who could shed some firsthand light on this, if they're on PN and happen to read these posts.
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