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  • #16
    There's so much I want to add, but will keep it shorter as this topic has been beaten to death over the last decade and there's always some bandy that joins the board, or comes out of hiding for the first time in years, to defend the band

    The band at UNI has to be better. From quality, to song selection, to better shows, to an in game understanding of when/what to play, to being willing to work with the athletic department. The absolute horror stories I've heard about trying to work with the band are frightening. They've threatened to pull the band multiple times rather than compromise. To that I say go for it. There is not a single band in the nation - outside of HBCU's - that get the kind of premium seating our does. There isn't a band - outside of the HBCUs - that gets to dictate to the athletic department like UNI's has.

    For the size and amount of time the band puts it, it should be infinitely better than it is. Brett nailed it with how slow, sloppy and boring their shows are. Adopt the B10 marching band style. Get some movement, or at least make the movement snappy and sharp. Being instep doesn't exist for the PMB, It's not crisp in movements. For as much as they practice it needs to be better.

    In game they need a ton of work. As has been mentioned they are backwards on which team to play loud and long for. Don't play at all when UNI is on offense. Period. Start there and eventually work your way into figuring out when to play. When the other team has the ball play as loud and as long as possible. Force the officials to throw a flag for a warning on it.

    I remember multiple times, when I was a student, that UNI's coaches and players would turn around and scream at the band (words that aren't allowed many places outside of the football field) because they'd be playing as loud as they could when UNI had the ball with less than 10 seconds on the play clock.

    The band director, and entire program, has always thought Saturday's are about them. Fans are there to see them. The game is just something between songs and shows. That needs to change.

    If they won't work with the AD and compromise, let them walk and blast the hell out of the sound system. Put the same ultimatum on the pep band for playing early in the season - every home game. If they can't do that, they don't get to go to St. Louis, or NCAAs. They don't want to be part of the gameday experience? Fine. Don't be a part of the experience elsewhere.
    GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by clenz View Post
      In game they need a ton of work. As has been mentioned they are backwards on which team to play loud and long for. Don't play at all when UNI is on offense. Period. Start there and eventually work your way into figuring out when to play. When the other team has the ball play as loud and as long as possible. Force the officials to throw a flag for a warning on it.
      I wouldn't mind a short fanfare of sorts after a first down (though I could live without it. the standard PA announcement is plenty), and of course playing after a score. But yeah, not playing during the rest of UNI's offense would be ideal.

      As for on defense: I can't remember what game I was watching last week (some P5 teams), but the home stadium had piped in sound over the PA (including that annoying storm siren sound) blaring all the way up pretty much to the snap, even when the playclock was under 5. I can't believe they were allowed to do that. Of course, the fans themselves were loud too, so perhaps the piped in sounds weren't as noticable to the officials on the field.

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      • #18
        You’ll find most schools drown their band out with PA music and sirens at this point.

        I go to at at least one game at NDSU every year for a long weekend with close friends of mine. NDSUs band doesn’t exist outside of pregame and half time. Sure, theybolay during the game but piped in music, the PA guy and sound effects are played over it. The band also knows they don’t have any say over when they are done. They follow orders and are actually done earlier than “required” to make sure everything else is smooth.


        NDSU hatred aside, I encourage everyone to find a non-UNI game to go to up there. The way they run game day ops is nuts.
        GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by vbfan19 View Post
          I wouldn't mind a short fanfare of sorts after a first down (though I could live without it. the standard PA announcement is plenty), and of course playing after a score. But yeah, not playing during the rest of UNI's offense would be ideal.

          As for on defense: I can't remember what game I was watching last week (some P5 teams), but the home stadium had piped in sound over the PA (including that annoying storm siren sound) blaring all the way up pretty much to the snap, even when the playclock was under 5. I can't believe they were allowed to do that. Of course, the fans themselves were loud too, so perhaps the piped in sounds weren't as noticable to the officials on the field.
          You only have to look as far south as Iowa City. They blast music out of the south speakers into that new vertical north endzone right up to the snap. The fact we aren't doing the same thing when playing in a big concrete and metal bowl is crazy. There isn't a ref on the planet that is going to throw a flag on that, nobody is picking that battle.
          #MACtion

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          • #20
            Hey change is hard as evidenced by the decade of no action...
            If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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            • #21
              Are we judging all of our sports teams solely on how they compare to Iowa, ISU and Ohio State? How does the band compare to other MVC schools?

              I would venture to guess the gulf in the difference between funding, resources, etc for our band compared to bands in the P5 is similar to that of our athletics teams if not more pronounced.

              As for gameday ops, you gotta have fan participation for those tricks to work. As long as our fans are sitting on their hands, the music isn't going to make much of a difference.
              Last edited by UNIGrainer; 10-24-2018, 09:53 PM.

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              • #22
                Say what ever you want,,, at least UNI Marching Band is 110% better than WIU. WIU has about 100 participants. Beyond terrible.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Neighbor View Post
                  Say what ever you want,,, at least UNI Marching Band is 110% better than WIU. WIU has about 100 participants. Beyond terrible.
                  are you saying that it is terrible that there are only 100 of them, or do they play terribly as well?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by vbfan19 View Post
                    are you saying that it is terrible that there are only 100 of them, or do they play terribly as well?
                    both. But that's just my opinion. I have zero background in music.

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                    • #25
                      if a band plays terribly, I'd rather there be fewer of them than more. Because in that case, the greater size just means more terrible-ness.

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                      • #26
                        Wow, the video looks awesome...

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                        • #27
                          Some facts: Big X bands have a marching style that is called Big X. It is a crisp, quick knees short step style that is unique to the Big X. Most other bands in the country uses what is called Drum Corps style of marching. It is a toe to heel step that is very different than Big X style. Totally different visually. Also, the Ohio State band is all brass so they will sound 'brassier' that any other band. They have no woodwinds in their band. The dome does not help the UNI band as the woodwinds are not noticeable unless they are in front of where you are. Having seen both ISU and Iowa's bands this season, playing outdoors must help. It does seem that being in Marching Band is more important to some band members than being in a good band. I have noticed this season the band seemed to do a better job of not playing when UNI's offense had the ball, but then I missed the last two home games because of the teams' previous road games performance. In the final analysis, if UNI were 9-2 or 8-3 right now, no one would care what the fricking band does. BTW the Alma Mater is fine, much better than the Balls, I mean Bells of Iowa State.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cat80 View Post
                            Some facts: Big X bands have a marching style that is called Big X. It is a crisp, quick knees short step style that is unique to the Big X. Most other bands in the country uses what is called Drum Corps style of marching. It is a toe to heel step that is very different than Big X style. Totally different visually. Also, the Ohio State band is all brass so they will sound 'brassier' that any other band. They have no woodwinds in their band. The dome does not help the UNI band as the woodwinds are not noticeable unless they are in front of where you are. Having seen both ISU and Iowa's bands this season, playing outdoors must help. It does seem that being in Marching Band is more important to some band members than being in a good band. I have noticed this season the band seemed to do a better job of not playing when UNI's offense had the ball, but then I missed the last two home games because of the teams' previous road games performance. In the final analysis, if UNI were 9-2 or 8-3 right now, no one would care what the fricking band does. BTW the Alma Mater is fine, much better than the Balls, I mean Bells of Iowa State.
                            None of this explains why the band has dozens of people out of step, behind on movement, flag girls a solid w counts behind or ahead, or not understanding situational playing.

                            Your last point is also dead ass wrong .The bad issue has been discussed on here going back over a decade - also known as a time we were a winning program .
                            GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!

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                            • #29
                              Better keep the band playing or attendance will drop another 500 from all the band parents that only come to watch their kids play in the band. We had season tickets by some band parents for a year. Never again. Thought my wife was going to get into fisticuffs with a band mom at a game once because my wife was "in her way" to take pictures of her band playing kid with a telephoto lens that was as big as any reporter would have. Another band mom told us we were cheering too loudly.

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                              • #30
                                I think a band can help the atmosphere at a game and can get people more into the game if they know their role. I don't want to be harsh, but everyone needs to remember that green stuff down there is a football field. There is a reason they don't call it a bandfield.

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