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  • I think you’re right…gotta figure out how to generate money if they are gonna compete. People aren’t going to blindly dump money in their lap and wait for results. Like most things…everything revolves around the dollars.

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    • I don’t see any amount of money that would stop Farley from destroying UNI football offensively.

      would more money have stopped the most epic NCAA choke job by the basketball team? Or stop them from crapping the bed numerous time with huge leads in big games?

      money is always good, I think it’s time for new coaching and a new beginning.

      time for an AD that perhaps markets UNI as a stepping stone. We will give you all you need to be very successful and then advance.
      Last edited by run&blade; 11-16-2021, 05:45 AM.

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      • You think Farley couldn't attract better coaches that he might actually trust if he could pay them more than $65k to be a coordinator?

        The stepping stone thing is great if you've got a crazy well connected AD and you never miss because the minute you miss, it's over. Also, at least basketball-wise, we play in a destination league. There isn't a program that's been successful long term burning through coaches.
        #MACtion

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        • Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
          You think Farley couldn't attract better coaches that he might actually trust if he could pay them more than $65k to be a coordinator?

          The stepping stone thing is great if you've got a crazy well connected AD and you never miss because the minute you miss, it's over. Also, at least basketball-wise, we play in a destination league. There isn't a program that's been successful long term burning through coaches.
          Is there programs that have been successful with the same coach for two decades? Winning national titles every few years? Heck even multiple semi finals?

          any basketball coaches at non power 5/6 conferences with ncaa tournament appearances for 15-20 years?

          maybe there is but I don’t know of any.


          seems to me the best results come from people that are young, motivated, and hungry. UNI seems to have given out lifetime achievement awards and the fans are expected to show up and golf clap and get misty eyed about the gold ole days that are a decade in the rear view mirror.

          the hell with that is what the bulk of the fans have responded.
          Last edited by run&blade; 11-16-2021, 08:14 AM.

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          • Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
            You think Farley couldn't attract better coaches that he might actually trust if he could pay them more than $65k to be a coordinator?

            The stepping stone thing is great if you've got a crazy well connected AD and you never miss because the minute you miss, it's over. Also, at least basketball-wise, we play in a destination league. There isn't a program that's been successful long term burning through coaches.
            Every one of our coordinators and high level coaches are making $80-100k.
            UNI FIGHT

            Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
            iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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            • Originally posted by 06panther10 View Post

              Every one of our coordinators and high level coaches are making $80-100k.
              Working off an old list, my bad.
              #MACtion

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              • Originally posted by run&blade View Post

                Is there programs that have been successful with the same coach for two decades? Winning national titles every few years? Heck even multiple semi finals?

                any basketball coaches at non power 5/6 conferences with ncaa tournament appearances for 15-20 years?

                maybe there is but I don’t know of any.


                seems to me the best results come from people that are young, motivated, and hungry. UNI seems to have given out lifetime achievement awards and the fans are expected to show up and golf clap and get misty eyed about the gold ole days that are a decade in the rear view mirror.

                the hell with that is what the bulk of the fans have responded.
                I'll leave football out of this. Y'all are making me seem like this giant Farley guy, I'm 100000% not but we're also not giving him the tools to compete at a high level. I'm all in on making a change once we have an AD that you'd trust to make that hire because we sure as hell don't have one now plus Mark is under contract until 2027

                Basketball-wise your expectations have to be realistic. There's nobody at our level that goes every single year and frankly Jake tracks with guys that are hall of famers with number of appearances.

                Bob McKillop (Davidson)-9 appearances in 28 years. (3 wins all in one year)
                Dana Altman (Creighton years)-7 appearances in 17 years (2 wins)
                Rick Byrd (Belmont)-8 appearances in 23 years (1 win)
                Randy Bennett (St Mary's)-7 appearances in 21 years (3 wins)
                Ben Jacobson-4 appearances in 15 years (4 wins)

                Great coaches at our level go about once every 3-4 years unless they have giant money advantages (see Marshall at Wichita)
                #MACtion

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                • Originally posted by 06panther10 View Post

                  Every one of our coordinators and high level coaches are making $80-100k.
                  https://www.legis.iowa.gov/publicati...cal/salaryBook

                  Here's the updated list, fwiw---

                  Farley-$400,000
                  Austin-Not Listed for 2021
                  Brookins-$55,000
                  Clanton-$85,000
                  Ganz-$50,000
                  Johnson-$93,930
                  Keith-$40,000
                  Paup-$65,000
                  Vokolek--$95,900
                  Watson-$97,000

                  Jacobson-$675,000 (Total Comp $975,000)
                  Crawford-$136,000
                  Hogan-$136,000
                  Tuttle-$110,000
                  Hermer-$55,000

                  Peterson-$151,558
                  Allen-$60,000
                  Davis-$54.780

                  Warren-$174.456
                  Fennelly-$70,821
                  Nelson-$99,250
                  Oney-Not listed for 2021

                  Schwab-$174,000
                  Pugh-$55,912
                  Roper-$66,855

                  Jacobs-$74,031

                  Jed Smith-$78,041

                  Harris-$219,845
                  Messerli-$48.367
                  Schemmell-$93,279
                  Thompson-$74,425
                  Christensen (before he left)-$81,192
                  Last edited by BCPanther; 11-16-2021, 12:06 PM.
                  #MACtion

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                  • Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                    You think Farley couldn't attract better coaches that he might actually trust if he could pay them more than $65k to be a coordinator?

                    The stepping stone thing is great if you've got a crazy well connected AD and you never miss because the minute you miss, it's over. Also, at least basketball-wise, we play in a destination league. There isn't a program that's been successful long term burning through coaches.
                    Farley had Salmon on his staff for years and still didn’t trust him and overruled his play calling on game day. This isn’t about how much salary a coordinator makes, it’s about Farley letting them run the offense. Get higher paid coordinators and UNI is just wasting money on them if Farley is going to change the game plan before game day or on game day.

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                    • Farley is one of the highest FCS HC in the nation. You could get plenty of great candidates at $200-$250K+ a year. Then spread of the leftover cash around for the assistant coaches (or scholarships).

                      This article is a couple years old, but gives you a flavor of what some of other coaches in the MVFC were earning in 2018

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                      • Originally posted by 06panther10 View Post

                        Just wanted to start a separate thread…

                        Anybody know what is going on within Descargar Youtube Vanced AD right now, or are we just supposed to pretend these departures 2 weeks before the fall season’s start are business usual??
                        No question he will be missed but the moving to a different job and new experience is very common place for aggressive young people in athletic administration
                        Last edited by mehmat; 11-17-2021, 06:39 AM.

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                        • Nearly all of Jacobson's deal is privately funded so his contract is not a drain on the university. You'd think as fascinated as you are with him you'd at least understand the details.

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                          • Originally posted by DecadePanther View Post
                            Nearly all of Jacobson's deal is privately funded so his contract is not a drain on the university. You'd think as fascinated as you are with him you'd at least understand the details.
                            The only thing that isn't privately funded for Jake is his IPERS contribution because it would be illegal to do it any other way.

                            That clown is incapable of a good faith discussion and we're stuck with him because Ames has disappeared yet continues to pay the server fees.
                            #MACtion

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                            • I don't think Harris will be fired due to no scandal. Yeah, I'd like Farley to be both AD and Head Coach, but it won"t happen. As far as a new Head Coach, who knows. We could do worse than Farley.

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                              • Originally posted by BCPanther View Post

                                https://www.legis.iowa.gov/publicati...cal/salaryBook

                                Here's the updated list, fwiw---

                                Farley-$400,000
                                Austin-Not Listed for 2021
                                Brookins-$55,000
                                Clanton-$85,000
                                Ganz-$50,000
                                Johnson-$93,930
                                Keith-$40,000
                                Paup-$65,000
                                Vokolek--$95,900
                                Watson-$97,000

                                Jacobson-$675,000 (Total Comp $975,000)
                                Crawford-$136,000
                                Hogan-$136,000
                                Tuttle-$110,000
                                Hermer-$55,000

                                Peterson-$151,558
                                Allen-$60,000
                                Davis-$54.780

                                Warren-$174.456
                                Fennelly-$70,821
                                Nelson-$99,250
                                Oney-Not listed for 2021

                                Schwab-$174,000
                                Pugh-$55,912
                                Roper-$66,855

                                Jacobs-$74,031

                                Jed Smith-$78,041

                                Harris-$219,845
                                Messerli-$48.367
                                Schemmell-$93,279
                                Thompson-$74,425
                                Christensen (before he left)-$81,192
                                On a semi-related note. It bums me out to see Jed Smith's salary. He has been here since 2005 and has been instrumental in the success of the football program as well as all of the other teams. I would hope they would have him above six figures.

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