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  • #31
    Originally posted by havok58 View Post
    The air raid offense won’t fly under Farley. He has a set scheme that he expects the OCs to follow, maybe with a few adjustments. Joe Davis’ offense was too much for Farley, which is why he was neutered before the regular season began. I wish Falk and UNI success this season, but I don’t know why Farley hires OCs that have a history of offenses that run counter to his scheme, as well as these coaches taking the job coming in knowing that they won’t be running the offense that they have been calling in their previous places other than using UNI as a stepping stone. These type of offenses which include no huddle requires talented players at a number of positions, which due to scholarship limits, transfer portal, whatever excuse we as fans or the UNI staff want to use, we can’t fill 100%. UNI gets the best of who’s left, which leads to a more conservative, basic scheme.
    This guy also has exposure to NFL offensive schemes, which certainly are not Mike Leach style air raid. Let’s see what he comes up with. Now, if he is coming in expecting to do all things Mike Leach, then let him handle all the press conferences.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by havok58 View Post
      The air raid offense won’t fly under Farley. He has a set scheme that he expects the OCs to follow, maybe with a few adjustments. Joe Davis’ offense was too much for Farley, which is why he was neutered before the regular season began. I wish Falk and UNI success this season, but I don’t know why Farley hires OCs that have a history of offenses that run counter to his scheme, as well as these coaches taking the job coming in knowing that they won’t be running the offense that they have been calling in their previous places other than using UNI as a stepping stone. These type of offenses which include no huddle requires talented players at a number of positions, which due to scholarship limits, transfer portal, whatever excuse we as fans or the UNI staff want to use, we can’t fill 100%. UNI gets the best of who’s left, which leads to a more conservative, basic scheme.
      I would have agreed with much of that in 2021. I have seen evidence to the contrary in the last 2 years. I think you're playing old tape.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by havok58 View Post
        The air raid offense won’t fly under Farley. He has a set scheme that he expects the OCs to follow, maybe with a few adjustments. Joe Davis’ offense was too much for Farley, which is why he was neutered before the regular season began. I wish Falk and UNI success this season, but I don’t know why Farley hires OCs that have a history of offenses that run counter to his scheme, as well as these coaches taking the job coming in knowing that they won’t be running the offense that they have been calling in their previous places other than using UNI as a stepping stone. These type of offenses which include no huddle requires talented players at a number of positions, which due to scholarship limits, transfer portal, whatever excuse we as fans or the UNI staff want to use, we can’t fill 100%. UNI gets the best of who’s left, which leads to a more conservative, basic scheme.
        You didn’t watch a single snap in 22 or 23

        and if you did you’re simply cherry picking very specific plays or series to believe that and not actually watching the actual offense.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by havok58 View Post
          The air raid offense won’t fly under Farley. He has a set scheme that he expects the OCs to follow, maybe with a few adjustments. Joe Davis’ offense was too much for Farley, which is why he was neutered before the regular season began. I wish Falk and UNI success this season, but I don’t know why Farley hires OCs that have a history of offenses that run counter to his scheme, as well as these coaches taking the job coming in knowing that they won’t be running the offense that they have been calling in their previous places other than using UNI as a stepping stone. These type of offenses which include no huddle requires talented players at a number of positions, which due to scholarship limits, transfer portal, whatever excuse we as fans or the UNI staff want to use, we can’t fill 100%. UNI gets the best of who’s left, which leads to a more conservative, basic scheme.
          You aren't up to date from the last couple of years.
          "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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          • #35
            Falk flew in and re-recruited McThenia this weekend. He has reaffirmed his commitment and will be enrolling for summer term.
            #MACtion

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            • #36
              Very up to date over the past few years and longer. Have attended or watched all the games. Stats don’t lie. I’ll give you the 2022 season where UNI led the MVFC in total offense, but that seems to be a fluke. Last year they were back at 6th. Previous years they were steady 7th to 9th. Different OCs if given the permission to run their own schemes should provide better results than maintaining a middle of the pack average.

              Disagree all you want. As I said, I wish Falk the best, but I wasn’t the one wondering if he’ll bring his air raid offense. Farley won’t allow that just like he didn’t allow Davis scheme. Regardless of who runs the offense, this season’s schedule is brutal. As in the 4 win variety. At least we got a fifth home game.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by havok58 View Post
                Very up to date over the past few years and longer. Have attended or watched all the games. Stats don’t lie. I’ll give you the 2022 season where UNI led the MVFC in total offense, but that seems to be a fluke. Last year they were back at 6th. Previous years they were steady 7th to 9th. Different OCs if given the permission to run their own schemes should provide better results than maintaining a middle of the pack average.

                Disagree all you want. As I said, I wish Falk the best, but I wasn’t the one wondering if he’ll bring his air raid offense. Farley won’t allow that just like he didn’t allow Davis scheme. Regardless of who runs the offense, this season’s schedule is brutal. As in the 4 win variety. At least we got a fifth home game.
                Results=/=scheme.

                The scheme was very different. The fact Theo regressed 8 ways to Sunday doesn't mean we were running the same system that we were pre 2021

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                • #38
                  Turns out there comes a point where you actually have to like football regardless of how talented you are...
                  #MACtion

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                    Turns out there comes a point where you actually have to like football regardless of how talented you are...
                    What's this mean? And what's the thought on Theo? Why did we see such a mediocre season out of someone who looked like he could be ready to compete for an NFL spot? Scheme, protection, effort?
                    If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by UNIAlum95 View Post

                      What's this mean? And what's the thought on Theo? Why did we see such a mediocre season out of someone who looked like he could be ready to compete for an NFL spot? Scheme, protection, effort?
                      There were rumors from the beginning that even though Theo had that arm and that talent that he didn't really love the game. He played because he was so talented. He's a different cat and that maybe led to some of the inconsistency we saw last year as he struggled to have the same motivation he had the year before.

                      Great kid. Was great for us in stretches but when times got really tough his heart wasn't necessarily in it. Nothing against him, some people are just wired different.

                      I'd imagine he'll be a camp arm somewhere in May/June but I can't see him lasting very long if he gets an invite to a full camp somewhere.
                      #MACtion

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BCPanther View Post

                        There were rumors from the beginning that even though Theo had that arm and that talent that he didn't really love the game. He played because he was so talented. He's a different cat and that maybe led to some of the inconsistency we saw last year as he struggled to have the same motivation he had the year before.

                        Great kid. Was great for us in stretches but when times got really tough his heart wasn't necessarily in it. Nothing against him, some people are just wired different.

                        I'd imagine he'll be a camp arm somewhere in May/June but I can't see him lasting very long if he gets an invite to a full camp somewhere.
                        Yep. There were mentions by coaches in interviews, and even himself, where it was mentioned football was like his 4th or 5th "love". There is nothing wrong with that in the big picture of life. Probably most healthy to go into adulthood with more than "I didn't go to college to play school. I went to major in football".

                        Having said that, to be as good as you can be, especially at QB, you have to be fully invested in it and I think most everyone (fans, players, coaches) got the feeling that wasn't the case with Theo. By all accounts, he's an amazing person, and student, and has an insane future as he heads into adult life. However, it's tough to see how he performed last year and not put 2 and 2 together, and think that played a part of it with inconsistencies.


                        As Brett mentioned, there were ideas floated that he played because he was better than most everyone without really having to try. Remember, he was going to give football up completely under Farley offered him a scholarship. Statistically, he is going to go down as a top 3-5 QB in UNI history. From an arm talent POV he is 1st or 2nd. From an investment in the game POV he probably isn't top 10. Which averages to a 5th or so setting. If he had Sanders' "heart/dedication" or whatever you want to call it, he would legitimately be unstoppable. He also wouldn't have been at UNI. He would have been starting at Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, or one of the "second level" of B10 programs.

                        I hope he gets a shot at a minicamp and impresses someone. He gave UNI hope for 2.5 years. It was insanely fun to watch. He gave Mark a vision of what it's like to not run a power run circa 1997 anymore. After games when my kids were on the field, even after a loss where he threw 4 picks, he would give them a high 5 and talk to them as much as a 22-year-old in that situation can talk to an 8 and 10-year-old. His best life lies outside of football, and I hope he has every bit of success doing it.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by clenz View Post

                          Yep. There were mentions by coaches in interviews, and even himself, where it was mentioned football was like his 4th or 5th "love". There is nothing wrong with that in the big picture of life. Probably most healthy to go into adulthood with more than "I didn't go to college to play school. I went to major in football".

                          Having said that, to be as good as you can be, especially at QB, you have to be fully invested in it and I think most everyone (fans, players, coaches) got the feeling that wasn't the case with Theo. By all accounts, he's an amazing person, and student, and has an insane future as he heads into adult life. However, it's tough to see how he performed last year and not put 2 and 2 together, and think that played a part of it with inconsistencies.


                          As Brett mentioned, there were ideas floated that he played because he was better than most everyone without really having to try. Remember, he was going to give football up completely under Farley offered him a scholarship. Statistically, he is going to go down as a top 3-5 QB in UNI history. From an arm talent POV he is 1st or 2nd. From an investment in the game POV he probably isn't top 10. Which averages to a 5th or so setting. If he had Sanders' "heart/dedication" or whatever you want to call it, he would legitimately be unstoppable. He also wouldn't have been at UNI. He would have been starting at Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, or one of the "second level" of B10 programs.

                          I hope he gets a shot at a minicamp and impresses someone. He gave UNI hope for 2.5 years. It was insanely fun to watch. He gave Mark a vision of what it's like to not run a power run circa 1997 anymore. After games when my kids were on the field, even after a loss where he threw 4 picks, he would give them a high 5 and talk to them as much as a 22-year-old in that situation can talk to an 8 and 10-year-old. His best life lies outside of football, and I hope he has every bit of success doing it.
                          This post is top notch. I am not in the Cedar Valley, so I wasn't aware of this stuff, but it starts to make sense after reading the posts today. I couldn't agree more with how much more fun UNI football has been the last couple years, and I just hope it continues.

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                          • #43
                            North Dakota lost their OC to SDSU when their guy went to Northwestern a couple weeks ago.

                            They guy they hired to replace him just left to take the NDSU OC job that opened up after Roehl went to Tennessee State.

                            ND now in the market for an OC for the 3rd time.

                            Anyone have any back story on Roehl's decision to go to TSU?
                            Winning is more fun than losing.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Blue42 View Post
                              North Dakota lost their OC to SDSU when their guy went to Northwestern a couple weeks ago.

                              They guy they hired to replace him just left to take the NDSU OC job that opened up after Roehl went to Tennessee State.

                              ND now in the market for an OC for the 3rd time.

                              Anyone have any back story on Roehl's decision to go to TSU?
                              Word is NDSU told him he'd never be a candidate for HC there without experience outside the program and then he couldn't find a P5 position coach job so he took Tennessee State.
                              #MACtion

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by BCPanther View Post

                                Word is NDSU told him he'd never be a candidate for HC there without experience outside the program and then he couldn't find a P5 position coach job so he took Tennessee State.
                                Interesting.

                                Why would he need experience outside NDSU to be HC there?

                                They have a formula. It's worked amazingly well. If he understands that method in depth...couldn't he run that program?

                                I don't know much about the guy. Maybe there are other limitations.

                                But that message to him would seem like really strange logic.
                                Winning is more fun than losing.

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