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  • NCAA Commission report

    The Commission on College Basketball released its recommendations on this morning in response to the FBI investigation. There's


    Here's what the Commission's report means for college basketball

    The headlines are these:
    • Recommend to the NBA to get rid of the one-and-done rule by allowing players to enter the draft once again out of high school. If they don’t then the NCAA would look at a model of freshmen ineligibility or “locking” up scholarship for a period of time (years). But the baseball model of once you arrive on campus and staying for three years was rejected as something that could not be applied in men’s college basketball.
    • Allow players who aren’t selected in the NBA draft to return to college.
    • Allow NCAA-certified agents to “engage” with student-athletes in high school, at an age or grade to be determined. No athlete would lose eligibility by meeting or contacting certified agents.
    • Continue to require players to sit out upon transferring.
    • Strengthen enforcement by creating independent parties to investigate and adjudicate major, complex cases. This has long been discussed at the highest level, to pull this phase away from member schools.
    • Increase the penalty structure for a Level I violation and make it stern. A five-year postseason ban would certainly do that if something was enacted. So, too, would a life-time show cause ban and a head coach restriction of more than one year.
    • The need for a new summer basketball model, with the help of the NBA, NBAPA and USA basketball. In the short term, that means non-scholastic basketball events would go through rigorous financial disclosure before coaches would be allowed to attend. The goal would be for the summer of 2019.
    • The need for apparel companies to cooperate in helping clean up summer basketball.
    • The commission recommended a Board of Governors change with at least five independent voices as part of the governing body.
    • And there was one significant mention of a change in how academic fraud was handled, which without naming North Carolina, certainly could be applied to a similar case. The report stated that schools could no longer defend a fraud case or misconduct on the basis that “all students, not just athletes, were permitted to benefit,’’ from that fraud.

  • #2
    I'm fine with these, sounds like they really stressed getting rid of the 1 and done rule, which I'd be thrilled with. The only I'm on the fence about is letting kids come back after the draft. It could really hold up recruiting - but at the end of the day that would probably benefit a team like us.
    Last edited by CyCarp; 04-25-2018, 01:36 PM.
    To avoid confusion - my username is baseball (Cy Young award) related, NOT for the Cyclones.

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    • #3
      Do kids who are headed to the draft keep up with their second semester studies? If not, how would they be in good standing to come back?

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      • #4
        Imagine the world's loudest and longest fart noise. That's all this is.

        The one and done kids will now go to the G League because the NBA isn't changing the rule. The Power Leagues will continue to do whatever they damn well please. Taking the shoe companies out of the summer only strengthens the Power Leagues because when those companies lose that revenue streams it isn't the Power Leagues that they're going to end apparel deals with.
        #MACtion

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        • #5
          Originally posted by sivert View Post
          Do kids who are headed to the draft keep up with their second semester studies? If not, how would they be in good standing to come back?

          Good question. And I had also thought about the impact this would have on recruiting. Would make it harder to recruit someone to replace the guy with marginal NBA possibilities because if he comes back, he is going to start.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sivert View Post
            The Commission on College Basketball released its recommendations on this morning in response to the FBI investigation. There's


            Here's what the Commission's report means for college basketball
            Seems like a grab bag of a few specific ideas, but mostly vague ones. Likely the only results will be the elimination of the one-and-done and the emergence of high school agents (yeah, no potential for problems there).

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            • #7
              NBA agents + AAU coaches = what could possibly go wrong?

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              • #8
                • Increase the penalty structure for a Level I violation and make it stern. A five-year postseason ban would certainly do that if something was enacted. So, too, would a life-time show cause ban and a head coach restriction of more than one year.
                That one sounds good. But when you set the penalty high, all you do is make it so NOBODY wants to enforce it.
                So guilt will be shifted to expendable assistants. Barriers of plausibly deniability will be erected for Head Coaches. And the NCAA will be more inclined to look the other way.

                They should also make head coaches responsible regardless of direct knowledge.

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                • #9
                  Ban home non-conference games for violators. They have to give up the revenue and the TV money that goes along with, and actually go on the road and play teams.
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                  The McLoud Center -Bob Lutz, Wichita Eagle, 2/3/2010

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                  • #10
                    I would suggest that the NCAA mandate that if a school gets wins vacated for a period of time, the proper title for that university whenever players from the vacated games are mentioned is "The cheating Univ of XYZ." So now, when we're watching the Celtics, the announcer would have to say, "Terry Rozier, from the cheating University of Louisville."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sivert View Post
                      I would suggest that the NCAA mandate that if a school gets wins vacated for a period of time, the proper title for that university whenever players from the vacated games are mentioned is "The cheating Univ of XYZ." So now, when we're watching the Celtics, the announcer would have to say, "Terry Rozier, from the cheating University of Louisville."
                      Or "from the confessed cheating U of L."

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                      • #12
                        Still will be a lot of one and dones IMO unless they force two years. Two years just means an increase of academic scandals. Would you rather roll at Kentucky a year and live like a king or play in G league? Love the idea of banning Home games.

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                        • #13
                          Not sure what the second sentence means, particularly "freshman ineligibility" and "locking up scholarship." Ineligibility for what? Who is locking up the scholarship? The school?
                          • Recommend to the NBA to get rid of the one-and-done rule by allowing players to enter the draft once again out of high school. If they don’t then the NCAA would look at a model of freshmen ineligibility or “locking” up scholarship for a period of time (years). But the baseball model of once you arrive on campus and staying for three years was rejected as something that could not be applied in men’s college basketball.

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                          • #14
                            "Freshman Ineligibility" must either mean:
                            - everyone redshirts their freshman year
                            - Freshmen are not eligible for NBA (But the NCAA can't mandate what the NBA does, so it must be the first)

                            I take "Locking up a scholarship" to mean (and I've been saying this for years) that scholarships would no longer be year by year. The most extreme would be that a player gets a 5-year scholarship. Each year each school has 13 scholarships to give. So a well balanced team whose players finish 4 years would have 3 or 4 new players per year. The most extreme version of "locking up" would mean:
                            - Each school would gets 4 4or5-year scholarships per year.
                            - Each scholarship is used by ONE player.
                            - Scholarships they can be banked to the next year (some limit)
                            Then, if a player leaves for the NBA, or injury(?)transfer(?) that does not open up a scholarship slot. If ALL your players are One-and-Dones, then you're only going to have 4 scholarship players each year. It would be really tough to field a team that way.

                            Now that's the most extreme. A less extreme would be 5 per year with 13 concurrent or something like that.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by UNIdad View Post
                              Not sure what the second sentence means, particularly "freshman ineligibility" and "locking up scholarship." Ineligibility for what? Who is locking up the scholarship? The school?
                              • Recommend to the NBA to get rid of the one-and-done rule by allowing players to enter the draft once again out of high school. If they don’t then the NCAA would look at a model of freshmen ineligibility or “locking” up scholarship for a period of time (years). But the baseball model of once you arrive on campus and staying for three years was rejected as something that could not be applied in men’s college basketball.
                              I'm pretty sure the baseball model only works because MLB agrees to it. If they decided to draft freshman or sophomores, there's nothing the NCAA could do about it.

                              I wonder if the "Locking up" idea is meant to spread the talent around a bit. You can't stop players from leaving after 1 year, but this might prevent a handful of schools from signing most of the 1 year players. For example, Duke is projected to have 4 freshmen drafted in the NBA first round. They have 4 more coming in next year that have a good chance of doing the same. They can use the 4 scholarships for their 2018 one and done players for 4 2019 one and done players. If those scholarships were un-usable for another year to two, they'd have to be more selective about who they sign.

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