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  • PTL & Big Four Classic

    PTL done effective immediately.

    Big Four done after this year. Iowa needed even more "scheduling flexibility".

  • #2
    Good Riddance.

    **** Iowa. Let's work out some 2 for 1's or something with Iowa State.
    #MACtion

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
      Good Riddance.

      **** Iowa. Let's work out some 2 for 1's or something with Iowa State.
      Yup. My first thought was that we need to get Iowa State on the phone. My second thought was of Iowa's schedule for the upcoming year. They definitely needed flexibility for those 300+ RPI teams. (Major, major, major sarcasm).
      "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Born-a-Panther View Post

        Yup. My first thought was that we need to get Iowa State on the phone. My second thought was of Iowa's schedule for the upcoming year. They definitely needed flexibility for those 300+ RPI teams. (Major, major, major sarcasm).
        Barta actually said that again today which is funny,

        Unfortunately, no way Prohm does a home and home with us. I'm skeptical he would even do a 2 and 1. I think our best shot will be getting teams other teams to do 2 and 1's (not easy I know) which is sad.

        Basically **** the power 5.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DownGoesKansas View Post

          Barta actually said that again today which is funny,

          Unfortunately, no way Prohm does a home and home with us. I'm skeptical he would even do a 2 and 1. I think our best shot will be getting teams other teams to do 2 and 1's (not easy I know) which is sad.

          Basically **** the power 5.
          Barta also used changes to the Missouri Valley as a reason in the press release. Huh? I mean... yeah... we only added another Final Four team but not sure what impact that should have on the Big 4.
          "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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          • #6
            The full release from Iowa.

            IOWA CITY, Iowa -- The University of Iowa announced on Thursday this will be the final year of The Hy-Vee Classic in Des Moines. The one-day event started in 2012, featuring the four Division I men’s basketball programs from the state of Iowa. Each year, Iowa (Big Ten) and Iowa State (Big 12) rotated playing Drake and Northern Iowa, members of the Missouri Valley Conference.

            “In our last agreement we added language that provided each institution an opportunity to opt out of the remainder of the contract if they reached 22 required games by the conference,” said Gary Barta, University of Iowa Henry B. and Patricia B. Tippie Director of Athletics chair. “The addition of two conference games is good for our fans, the Big Ten Conference and our strength of schedule, but unfortunately it created some scheduling challenges that impacts this event.”

            Several changes have occurred since the creation of The Hy-Vee Classic. Maryland and Rutgers were added to the Big Ten Conference, and the Missouri Valley Conference added Valparaiso and Loyola after the departure of Wichita State and Creighton. In addition to the Big Ten’s announcement of a 20-game league schedule, the Gavitt Tipoff Games, featuring the Big Ten versus the Big East was also introduced in 2015.

            The Hawkeyes will make their final appearance in the men’s basketball event against Northern Iowa on Dec. 15, 2018, at Wells Fargo Arena. Northern Iowa and Drake are not currently included on future Iowa men’s basketball schedules. The annual Iowa Corn Cy-Hawk game between Iowa and Iowa State will continue as scheduled.

            “We truly appreciate the support of the fans in central Iowa, the Wells Fargo Arena staff, and Hy-Vee for their commitment to this event,” added Barta. “As we have in the past, the Hawkeyes will continue to evaluate playing in-state schools on a sport-by-sport, case-by-case basis.

            Iowa has posted a 6-1 record since the first year of the event in 2012.”

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            • #7
              FTH. Now, then, forever.

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              • #8
                Here's the full e-mail from Randy Larson.

                Prime Time ends 31-year run of summer basketball


                Founder and Director of the Prime Time League Randy Larson announced today that the league has run its' course and will not play this summer.

                "With the opportunity created by an NCAA rule change to have 4 hours of practice together each week in the summer, and another 4 hours of individual skill work with the players, there just isn't a need for it. When we started 32 years ago, college coaches couldn't even watch their players scrimmage; now they can actually coach them all summer, which is great for the players."

                "Between summer school classes and homework, strength and conditioning workouts, and now 8 hours of either practice or skill drills, the coaches at Iowa and UNI concluded that their players were just being asked to do too much. They correctly wanted the summer to still be the off-season, albeit one with much more development than it used to have when coaches didn't get to help the players improve."

                "I completely agree with that view. I wanted Prime Time to be an arena where the kids could have some fun in the off-season, and to have our games be a little more structured than the pickup games they were playing, and to be able to play in front of our greatly-interested fans. The fans made the games special. But the players' well-being has to come first. While I'm sure some of the players that I loved the most, really loved playing in Prime Time, I'm sure not all did. I didn't want the percentage who saw it as too much to grow. We had a lot of fun moments. We tried to influence the guys into playing together, playing hard, playing smart."

                "I'm grateful for all the fans who attended, all the players who played, and all the coaches, scorekeepers, media, refs, sponsors, North Liberty Rec Center and Sportsplex staff, and helpers (particularly my secretary Diane Norden) who made it happen in a fairly professional way for a long time."

                "I'll never forget a 9th-grade Ricky Davis dunking on grown men;

                Jess Settles bull-moosing his way into the lane and playing full speed;

                Matt Gatens playing the right way every play;

                Ryan Bowen showing every player how to work your way into the NBA by going to the boards every trip;

                Wyatt Lohaus becoming a league MVP;

                Chris Street winning a championship game and then giving his jersey to a little kid;

                Mike Born traveling all the way over from Iowa State or Des Moines to show our younger guys what full-speed effort really is;

                All the many less-heralded small college players like Jeff Hrubes or Pat McCool or David Kruse who got to show they were just as good as a D1 player;

                and especially all the players who embraced the idea of playing as a team, not a collection of individuals."

                "Perhaps my favorite moment of all the years was when a particularly skilled player, who went one-on-one his whole life, made the extra pass with 3 seconds to go in the championship game instead of forcing a shot up. The guy he threw it to missed, and we lost but the fact that he had embraced the idea of making the right play will never leave me."

                "Our Prime Time coaches were heroes in a thankless job, helping us stay true to the mission of playing the right way, best you can without practices. I always kept in my mind what George Raveling told Tom Davis, 32 years ago, that he should ask me to keep playing in the pickup games in the off-season, before summer leagues were allowed, because, 'His pickup games are better than my games were at Washington State.' I know he was joking, but the idea that pickup games didn't have to be junk is certainly something a lot of guys have embraced. People love to play the game with determination, and a passion for winning, and showing how winning happens more often when you play together, has been fun. For allowing me to do that, and particularly for recruiting players who loved to play that way, I owe a huge thanks to Tom Davis, Steve Alford, Todd Lickliter and Fran McCaffery."

                "A special thanks to Ben Jacobson and Greg McDermott and the other UNI coaches who always had players you loved on your team in Prime Time. Everybody loved drafting them--they were indispensable to the league because they played so hard and always the right way and almost never failed to show up despite the extra travel for them, and always made their school and fans proud. The story of how good UNI has been for so long, with very few so-called blue-chippers, is their story. Their guys are warriors."

                "Thanks for all of it. I started doing it for the players but the people who for 3 decades have stopped me and said they enjoyed coming to the games were more the reason I kept doing it. It was a treat."

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                • #9
                  Well let's be sure that when this ends, it ends on the note of Iowa having its a$$ handed to them by UNI. Time to up it a notch or two on our end.
                  If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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                  • #10
                    Just when I thought I couldn’t have less respect for Iowa..they found a way. What a bunch of bleepity bleeping bleeps. Big ol sissies. Honestly talk about a chicken bleep move.

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                    • #11
                      Iowa State is just as bad though. They just get to use Fran as a scapegoat. Prohm was complaining on how the Big 4 wasn't fair for them last year on a neutral court with 80% cyclone fans. He/they are never coming to Cedar Falls either.

                      Sucks for us because scheduling gets a little harder but I am fine with it being over..

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                      • #12
                        What did Prohm say about it last year? I'm an ISU fan and I hope we just go back to home and homes with UNI but I'm not naive enough to even think that will happen.

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                        • #13
                          Prohm, not knowing the history of the series and that's not a knock on him, said something to the effect of 'I don't like it but Northern (yes, he called us Northern) and Drake must love getting to play on a neutral floor'
                          #MACtion

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                          • #14
                            Well that's a lot different than saying it wasn't fair. He was just saying UNI and Drake were getting a good deal, which is true from a national perspective.

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                            • #15
                              Time for Jake to ask Mac to put his "friend hat" on and schedule a home and home.
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                              The McLoud Center -Bob Lutz, Wichita Eagle, 2/3/2010

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