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  • #46
    Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post

    Points 1 and 2 just point out something I heard from an ex player during a tourney broadcast, and I completely agree. A lot of college basketball teams are overcoached. Basketball is designed around athleticism, not necessarily the ability to remember and execute 400 set plays, like some kind of robot. Also, even in a normal year, Drake’s record wouldn’t be much different, since DD has been very good at molding his system around his recruits. Lack of Covid wouldn’t change that.
    This may be one of Coach Jake's down falls.
    A number of guys have come into the program with a very impressive HS resume and an ability to be a playmaker, only to seemingly regress during their time at UNI. Obviously there are other factors surrounding college kids but guys like Pickford, McCloud, Carlson, Friedman, Rank, McKowen all come to mind. There are countless others who I wouldn't say regressed but they didn't seem to improve at all either over the course of 4-5 yrs on campus.
    It seems like creativity and improvisation are coached out of players when they reach campus and some guys can adapt to that while others can't.
    Last edited by orangetennis; 01-28-2021, 04:59 PM.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by orangetennis View Post

      This may be one of Coach Jake's down falls.
      A number of guys have come into the program with a very impressive HS resume and an ability to be a playmaker, only to seemingly regress during their time at UNI. Obviously there are other factors surrounding college kids but guys like Pickford, McCloud, Carlson, Friedman, Rank, McKowen all come to mind. There are countless others who I wouldn't say regressed but they didn't seem to improve at all either over the course of 4-5 yrs on campus.
      It seems like creativity and improvisation are coached out of players when they reach campus and some guys can adapt to that while others can't.
      A few of those guys you mentioned had some other issues -

      Pickford - injuries sophomore and junior years, playing out of position this year because 2 PGs are out
      McCloud - couldn't shoot to save his life. Teams would beg him to shoot the 3, which crowded the middle and wouldn't allow him to drive. After leaving spent 1 year at a D3 before giving up the game, not to mention the rift his dad send to have with coaches, I just don't think he enjoyed playing anymore tbh.
      Rank - was undersized at his position. The guy was tough nosed but just didn't really have a position imo.
      Friedman - never really seemed mobile enough to make the transition. You could say maybe that's on the coaching staff, but bigs are always a gamble.

      Brooks was so long ago I don't really recall his career that well. I will say, Carlson was a head scratcher for me. His sophomore postseason was crazy good, but maybe those few games were more him overachieving than the other times where h underachieving? Expectations were so high for him, it was very frustrating to watch his final 2 years here. We have had some, although not too many guys who didn't do much early then really played well at the end of their career - Singleton and Dahl come to mind.
      To avoid confusion - my username is baseball (Cy Young award) related, NOT for the Cyclones.

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      • #48
        Don’t get me wrong on the above. There’s definitely a time and place for set plays in the game, and Jake’s new offense seems to be more about flow and motion than rigid set pieces. I’m also not part of the “fire Jake” crowd. In UNI’s case, my take is “overcoached” relates more to how long it seems some of our more mediocre teams, or those that gelled really late, take to finally get the offensive and defensive schemes the staff wants to run. Seems like every year we hear about this, but with several players who were in the same system the year before. If they’re that complex, it may be time to tweak or rethink some things. It would be interesting to get an ex-players’ take on this, or from another coach. Those of us in the cheap seats can only speculate like arm chair QBs.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by CyCarp View Post
          We have had some, although not too many guys who didn't do much early then really played well at the end of their career - Singleton and Dahl come to mind.
          Nate Buss.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by UNI Ka-Bullseye View Post

            Nate Buss.
            A man that was ahead of the times!

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            • #51
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              Last edited by vicycleeight; 02-24-2021, 01:01 AM.

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