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  • I think it would be funny if JMU just never officially "announced" the move until they actually joined the new conference.

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    • Originally posted by vbfan19 View Post
      I think it would be funny if JMU just never officially "announced" the move until they actually joined the new conference.
      Problemwiththat is that there's always some sports going on even in the summer.

      Also, this doesn't affect football.
      "And immediately, (P'Allen Stinnett's) Facebook status was spouting vulgarities towards the university."

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      • I hope we can arrive at 14. Who knows when? There are many schools in the Horizon, Ohio Valley, and Summit within our footprint. Many choices mentioned in other threads. I like teams with big markets and good facilities, but sometimes we have taken a hit (Evansville Valpo). I like Omaha, N. Kentucky, Morehead State, UW Milwaukee, South Dakota State, and Detroit Mercy. Some of those are too far to the North for the Southern schools to approve, but it's interesting discussion.

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        • Originally posted by BrockLesnar View Post
          I hope we can arrive at 14. Who knows when? There are many schools in the Horizon, Ohio Valley, and Summit within our footprint. Many choices mentioned in other threads. I like teams with big markets and good facilities, but sometimes we have taken a hit (Evansville Valpo). I like Omaha, N. Kentucky, Morehead State, UW Milwaukee, South Dakota State, and Detroit Mercy. Some of those are too far to the North for the Southern schools to approve, but it's interesting discussion.
          Not exactly sure I'd consider Brookings, SD or Morehead, KY to be "big markets" unless we're comparing them to Dike.

          I'm fine staying at 12. 14 is just more mouths to feed in terms of splitting profit. I dont think 14 teams makes us any more attractive for multiple bids than 12 does.

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          • Originally posted by unipanthers8907 View Post

            Not exactly sure I'd consider Brookings, SD or Morehead, KY to be "big markets" unless we're comparing them to Dike.

            I'm fine staying at 12. 14 is just more mouths to feed in terms of splitting profit. I dont think 14 teams makes us any more attractive for multiple bids than 12 does.
            The MVC got everyone they needed to get. They might expand someday but no reason at all now. We’re going to have a really good league with the additions.

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            • Originally posted by unipanthers8907 View Post

              Not exactly sure I'd consider Brookings, SD or Morehead, KY to be "big markets" unless we're comparing them to Dike.

              I'm fine staying at 12. 14 is just more mouths to feed in terms of splitting profit. I dont think 14 teams makes us any more attractive for multiple bids than 12 does.
              South Dakota State and Morehead are more for computer numbers. I don't think teams in our SE area will want the Jacks. Morehead could work. If I were to pick I'd go with Omaha and N. Kentucky. Cincinnati isn't a big market, but a decent one. More teams makes for more recruiting we could now have a shot at kids from Kentucky, Tennessee, and the Cincinnati area. With 12 we don't get a Cincinnati kid.
              Last edited by BrockLesnar; 02-04-2022, 02:17 AM.

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              • Originally posted by BrockLesnar View Post

                South Dakota State and Morehead are more for computer numbers. I don't think teams in our SE area will want the Jacks. Morehead could work. If I were to pick I'd go with Omaha and N. Kentucky. Cincinnati isn't a big market, but a decent one. More teams makes for more recruiting we could now have a shot at kids from Kentucky, Tennessee, and the Cincinnati area. With 12 we don't get a Cincinnati kid.
                Northern Kentucky was contacted in this round and would not commit to the financial requirements of being in the Valley.

                Morehead's average KenPom over the last 10 years is 224 so I'm not sure how they're a 'computer numbers' add.

                South Dakota State isn't going anywhere without North Dakota State and there's no people there and they're a flight for us and Drake and we're by far the closest to them.

                Omaha is on the radar but they have to prove they want to be good in basketball and convince everyone they're more than a hockey school, frankly their transition from D2 has been a disaster but they have the good fortune of geography.

                I don't think the Valley does anything for a while. Loyola leaving actually made 12 make more sense than 14 and, in the end, made us a better league.
                #MACtion

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                • We traded 1 top 50 program for 2 and got a late round conditional draft pick along with it with UIC.

                  In the end we are coming out ahead.

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                  • Originally posted by clenz View Post
                    We traded 1 top 50 program for 2 and got a late round conditional draft pick along with it with UIC.

                    In the end we are coming out ahead.
                    Absolutely. On top of that, Belmont and Murray actually have pedigree and legitimate fanbases. Loyola has been good the last 5 years after 30 years of nothing. Even with their recent success, they still have no fans and play in a HS gym. I think as of 2-3 years ago they didnt even have a radio broadcast of their games.

                    The Valley is in great shape moving forward.
                    UNI FIGHT

                    Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
                    iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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                    • Originally posted by 06panther10 View Post

                      Absolutely. On top of that, Belmont and Murray actually have pedigree and legitimate fanbases. Loyola has been good the last 5 years after 30 years of nothing. Even with their recent success, they still have no fans and play in a HS gym. I think as of 2-3 years ago they didnt even have a radio broadcast of their games.

                      The Valley is in great shape moving forward.
                      Correct, they didn't get a radio network (3 stations currently) until after the Final Four.
                      #MACtion

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                      • The thing I'm most excited about is Arch Madness attendance numbers tbh. The city of St.Louis has to be thrilled that they're going to get a bunch more people in that week and likely have them staying longer with an additional session Thursday.

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                        • Future conference-mate Murray State now ranked number 23 in the AP poll. Solid addition, I think it's fair to say.

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