Deleware and Deleware St. are gonna tear each other apart!!

[JayJ79]

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Not scheduling someone in football makes them a nazi?

Well, I suppose if not giving someone soup makes a person a nazi, then not giving them a football game could to. *shrug*

[housecat]

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No, if you read thru this thread, there's racism between the schools due to one being historically black.
My point was, we apparantly have some racists coming to town. This is just the team to takem out. All we care about is winning. The Panthers will give them a little education on these matters.

Soup nazi's are bad too!!

[JayJ79]

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I just think there is a difference between racist and "nazi".
I mean, saying that all Irish people are drunks is racist.
But that doesn't mean that the person who says that thinks that all Irish people should be killed.

Of course, this is all just football smack, and doesn't have to be true and isn't meant to be taken seriously. So carry on. ;op

[bluehenfan]

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OK, so here's the story of the whole spat about the UD/DSU controversy. Although there's only a 45 mile difference between Newark and Dover, the two schools never played each other. Why? It's possible up until the 1960s race was an issue, but that was a pretty unlikely factor after that. For one, DSU wasn't a particularly competitive program until the mid-1980s, and UD was a small-school power in 1970s, winning three national titles. Also, Tubby Raymond explained recently in an interview, "They were competing for the same tax dollars. I think, at the time, there were certainly some educators that felt that the state wasn’t big enough to have two good academic schools. At that time it was an academic snobbery — it had nothing to do with athletics or certainly not football." DSU wasn't scheduled also because UD wouldn't be interested in playing in Dover at a smaller stadium UD fans would have to commute to. Tubby said this led to smugness: the athletic department and administration not wanting to be told what to do. The non-game was always a state issue and was pushed heavily by sportswriters at Wilmington News Journal. DSU was also pushing the game because they really have nothing to lose playing UD. When Tubby was asked at the game last week the reasons why DSU and UD never played, he said, "There's lots of reasons, this may be one of them ..." UD was up 30-0 at that point. Then the issue exploded thanks to UD alum Jeff Pearlman's ESPN.com article this season saying the stubbornness not to play DSU was "oozing" with racism, and then Outside the Lines did an unflattering piece on us focusing on the race issue. But is it racism? Of course not! UD has tons of black players and coaches on the team, a black second-year men's basketball coach, and UD plays DSU in virtually every other varsity sport. I for one would like to play DSU more often (doesn't have to be every year) or another local FCS cupcake rather than our annual match with DII West Chester. I can't speak for all UD alums, students or officials, but no, my alma mater isn't Klan U, and now that we finally played the game I hope it's part of a continuing tradition!

And congrats on the Panthers' dramatic win versus our recent arch nemesis UNH! (Santos was 3-0 versus us!)

[9YRPLAN]

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thanks for the info. interesting story. now we are going to beat you.

[Blue Hen Redcoat]

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OK Boys and Girls. Let's sort this out once and for all. The Hens versus the Hornets was not a racial deal or at least has not been since the 30s and we don't hate each other. Most Hens fans could care less what goes on in Dover since the Hornets play in a pathetic conference and you would fill on of the grandstands with our band, the stadium's that small. It is more due to the disparity in the programs and two stubborn administrations not being able to get it sorted. The twits running our program wanted to maintain the "tradition" of playing Div 2 Westchester; a great game to take small children to (since one knows what the result will be and can spend the afternoon wiping noses and passing our popcorn) but that's it. The prats at DSU however insist on a "home and away" series where our stadium seats over 22,000 and theirs can barely fit 6,000.

All this nonsense was started by some fool UD Grad (who sometimes gets put on ESPN and clearly had his lunch money stolen by a UD reserve linebacker when he attended the college) needing some kind of "revenge" for perceived slights. You should read his article on the ESPN site after Friday's Dresden re-enactment (in which Flacco and Co played the combined Allied Airforces). He's now talking like Cuff and Flacco are Leinart and Bush. Lesson; don't believe everything you read, particularly until you know a little more about the source.

On the other hand though, be just a little concerned about the Joe and Omar show. They put a loss on Navy in a shoot out at their house. They are streets better than Andy Hall and the backs who handed your boys their heads in 2003. Our defense is improving (and Lord did it need to) so we aren't necessarily a walkover.

By the way, other fans are asking me what the closest/best airport is to your house. I used to travel to Charles City a lot (don't ask) and would fly to Minneapolis and drive rather than fly to Mason city (the place the music died and all that bad karma). Is Waterloo closer or is the drive from MN airport managable?

[Blue Rooster Cult]

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Delaware is EAST of the Mason-Dixon line, whomever posted the map got it right. Delaware was a slave state during the Civil War that remained loyal to the North, a border state. Delaware did not establish thier own legislation freeing the slaves, they waited until the federal statute forced thier hand. Wilmington Delaware faced the longest occupation by the United States armed forces, the year escapes me right now (1969).

Delaware has less than a stellar reputation in thier race relations, not that hard for someone to draw a conclusion that it was the reason for not playing DSU when the UD adminstration would offer nothing but inauthentic justifications.

For the other UD posters,"me thinks thou dost protest too much".

The "prats" @ Dover asked for a home and home? There is no doucmentation of this at any level, a fabrication that people have found themselves believing because it has been repeated so much. It just ain't true.

[Blue Hen Redcoat]

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That DSU Hornet could be the worst looking mascot ever created.

My 7 year old who was at the game with me said that the Hornet looked like a Martian! More like ET who says "OOOuuucccch!" after the beating they received.

[Blue Hen Redcoat]

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Delaware is EAST of the Mason-Dixon line, w................ Wilmington Delaware faced the longest occupation by the United States armed forces, the year escapes me right now (1969).

For the other UD posters,"me thinks thou dost protest too much".

It was the DE National Guard man. Don't compare it with the Airborne down in the south, please. And the State is in fact divided in terms of its view on "where" it is. Up here, North of the Chesapeake and Delaware canal the people are Northerners (Eagles fans, Phillies fans, no interest in NASCAR that sort of thing). South of the Canal, well that's a whole 'nother country

[Pantherpower]

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OK Boys and Girls. Let's sort this out once and for all. The Hens versus the Hornets was not a racial deal or at least has not been since the 30s and we don't hate each other. Most Hens fans could care less what goes on in Dover since the Hornets play in a pathetic conference and you would fill on of the grandstands with our band, the stadium's that small. It is more due to the disparity in the programs and two stubborn administrations not being able to get it sorted. The twits running our program wanted to maintain the "tradition" of playing Div 2 Westchester; a great game to take small children to (since one knows what the result will be and can spend the afternoon wiping noses and passing our popcorn) but that's it. The prats at DSU however insist on a "home and away" series where our stadium seats over 22,000 and theirs can barely fit 6,000.

All this nonsense was started by some fool UD Grad (who sometimes gets put on ESPN and clearly had his lunch money stolen by a UD reserve linebacker when he attended the college) needing some kind of "revenge" for perceived slights. You should read his article on the ESPN site after Friday's Dresden re-enactment (in which Flacco and Co played the combined Allied Airforces). He's now talking like Cuff and Flacco are Leinart and Bush. Lesson; don't believe everything you read, particularly until you know a little more about the source.

On the other hand though, be just a little concerned about the Joe and Omar show. They put a loss on Navy in a shoot out at their house. They are streets better than Andy Hall and the backs who handed your boys their heads in 2003. Our defense is improving (and Lord did it need to) so we aren't necessarily a walkover.
By the way, other fans are asking me what the closest/best airport is to your house. I used to travel to Charles City a lot (don't ask) and would fly to Minneapolis and drive rather than fly to Mason city (the place the music died and all that bad karma). Is Waterloo closer or is the drive from MN airport managable?

These aren't your 2003 Panthers, pal. There is only one thing on the menu for Saturday and it's Blue Hen. It comes highly recommended by Richmond, Villanova, and Ricky Santos gives it 5 stars for beatdown taste.

[truebluehen]

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HOWDY out there in IOWA!! Did anyone see the Delaware Game on ESPN? Final score 44-7, but could have been 70 - 0, if the head coach wanted to rub it in DSU's faces...

Only one comment - REMEMBER 2003!!!!

[Back2BackCats]

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By the way, other fans are asking me what the closest/best airport is to your house. I used to travel to Charles City a lot (don't ask) and would fly to Minneapolis and drive rather than fly to Mason city (the place the music died and all that bad karma). Is Waterloo closer or is the drive from MN airport managable?

Welcome to the board guys. I would say the best airport would be Cedar Rapids which is about an hour southeast. Our Dome does not hold 22,000 but I think you will find that the atmosphere is fantastic.

[Cat80]

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Hen fans, welcome to the board. The UNI campus is:

2 hours from Des Moines
1 hour from Cedar Rapids
3.5 hours from Minneapolis
5.5 hours from Chicago

Fares would be very expensive to Waterloo. And we do remember 2003.
Thanks for the DE history lesson. I've been to southern DE, but not northern. A whole 'nother country is right. But they seem to like it there.

Here's to a great game and no injuries.

[Blue Rooster Cult]

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It was the DE National Guard man. Don't compare it with the Airborne down in the south, please. And the State is in fact divided in terms of its view on "where" it is. Up here, North of the Chesapeake and Delaware canal the people are Northerners (Eagles fans, Phillies fans, no interest in NASCAR that sort of thing). South of the Canal, well that's a whole 'nother country

Are National Guardsmen members of the US Military?

If not, somebody better let all those guys in Iraq know so they can get home, and quick

[Blue Hen Redcoat]

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For the other UD posters,"me thinks thou dost protest too much".

The "prats" @ Dover asked for a home and home? There is no doucmentation of this at any level, a fabrication that people have found themselves believing because it has been repeated so much. It just ain't true.

Give me a break. In case you want to see Dr. Sessoms' (DSU's President) approach to race relations and appropriate behavior check out this string from the gohens.net and see what you think.

http://www.gohens.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5306

Of course he may have been innocently rooting for their band as they played on while our (African American) Center was injured and on the deck for about 5 minutes. Shabby