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  • Ta

    at this rate he is gonna get canned......

    10:30 1st Qtr
    Missouri St (0-1, 0-0 away)
    Oklahoma St (2-0, 1-0 home)
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    "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

    dti

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    Re: Ta

    He definitely needs to step it up this year. Starting to look like his Kansas years all over again.
    UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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    • #3
      Re: Ta

      He has already stepped it down......
      "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

      dti

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      • #4
        Re: Ta

        I don't think a loss to Oklahoma State, no matter how bad, will hurt his position.
        Yes, it's nice to make a good showing against a BCS team, but in the end, it's mostly just a money game.

        Of course, the loss last week is what is REALLY hurting him.

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        • #5
          Re: Ta

          Too much fishing in the off season.

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          • #6
            Re: Ta

            Originally posted by JayJ79 View Post
            I don't think a loss to Oklahoma State, no matter how bad, will hurt his position.
            Yes, it's nice to make a good showing against a BCS team, but in the end, it's mostly just a money game.

            Of course, the loss last week is what is REALLY hurting him.

            Who the heck are they gonna beat the rest of the year??????
            "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

            dti

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            • #7
              Re: Ta

              Originally posted by Chitown Panther View Post
              Who the heck are they gonna beat the rest of the year??????
              youngstown?

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              • #8
                Re: Ta

                Lets say they win 3 games....somethings wrong.
                "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

                dti

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                • #9
                  Re: Ta

                  So what happened to TA? When he was here, he was great. Lots of conference championships with the playoff appearances to go with them. He was a real up and comer and then he left for Kansas. Yes, he failed there but Kansas isn't a historical power in football. Besides, other FCS coaches failed when they went up to FBS. Now he's at MSU and while you could say he needs time, they really don't show much signs of improvement. The conference isn't getting any easier with the addition of the Dakota teams either. Was he just overrated at UNI? Did he just lose his mojo when he left and has never been able to get it back? Were his assistants at UNI that good that he just rode their coattails?
                  "And immediately, (P'Allen Stinnett's) Facebook status was spouting vulgarities towards the university."

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                  • #10
                    Re: Ta

                    I can see a common demominator in his success. Mark Farley. I think we have the best coach now. Of course, he was with him at Kansas, so I could be wrong...
                    UNI FIGHT

                    Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
                    iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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                    • #11
                      Re: Ta

                      Originally posted by CincyPanther88 View Post
                      Was he just overrated at UNI? Did he just lose his mojo when he left and has never been able to get it back? Were his assistants at UNI that good that he just rode their coattails?
                      From what I've observed and heard, TA is not the greatest individual position coach as far as teaching fundaments, plays, and what the game plan is. Some coaches are better coordinators and position coaches while others excel in leading entire programs. He had TREMENDOUS assistants at UNI. Had those at Kansas too. BUT, he was an excellent CEO type while at UNI. He is very likable and has a lot of public savvy. Plus, he always got the most out of his guys at UNI. His players cared about him and would run through walls for him.

                      Its hard to turn around losing programs when teaching players and getting back to the basics is essential. He took over an established UNI program and brought it to new heights. MSU has been down and was totally decimated by Randy Ball's recruiting strategy of going after JUCOs and FBS transfers. It worked at WIU for a few good years but it can really set a place back when a new coach comes in and tries to build with 4 year players. Heck, WIU hasn't been the same since their transfers cycled out. Plus, MSU is a strange place. They have a lot of resources to draw from and are a sleeping giant in the Valley, but are just never able to get over the hump.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Ta

                        Originally posted by 06panther10 View Post
                        I can see a common demominator in his success. Mark Farley. I think we have the best coach now. Of course, he was with him at Kansas, so I could be wrong...
                        Farley was only a position coach with TA at Kansas and UNI. There is a big jump from there to running a program. Farley is much different from those days. For the better.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Ta

                          Originally posted by Matt Trump View Post
                          Its hard to turn around losing programs when teaching players and getting back to the basics is essential. He took over an established UNI program and brought it to new heights. MSU has been down and was totally decimated by Randy Ball's recruiting strategy of going after JUCOs and FBS transfers. It worked at WIU for a few good years but it can really set a place back when a new coach comes in and tries to build with 4 year players. Heck, WIU hasn't been the same since their transfers cycled out. Plus, MSU is a strange place. They have a lot of resources to draw from and are a sleeping giant in the Valley, but are just never able to get over the hump.
                          I agree with that. Kansas and MSU aren't exactly football powers where a coach can step in and have great success easily. UNI was perfect for TA -- I didn't blame him for wanting to try his luck with the bigger pond of FBS football, but it's unfortunate he didn't end up in a better spot back then. I thought he'd have been a little more successful than he's been so far at MSU, but it does take a few years to change direction with a football team. He might turn it around, but he'd better get going.
                          UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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                          • #14
                            Re: Ta

                            Wasn't Salmon also a position coach at both UNI and KU with Terry?
                            The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Ta

                              Originally posted by Matt Trump View Post
                              he was an excellent CEO type while at UNI. He is very likable and has a lot of public savvy. Plus, he always got the most out of his guys at UNI. His players cared about him and would run through walls for him.
                              or at least try to. damn that was a scary play when Kenny Shedd hit the wall after the TD in the '92 quarterfinal game against McNeese.

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