Scheduling

[JayJ79]

Re: Scheduling

I may be wrong, Probably am, wouldn't be the first time.

But the 7 DI wins thing is a relatively new criteria. Wasn't Youngstown State 8-3 in 1997 with two DII wins? They went 4-0 in the playoffs to finish 12-3.

I remember that UNI and YSU had idnetical records that year in conference and UNI won the head to head and YSU got invited and UNI stayed home. Both teams had 6 DI wins. Then again maybe YSU didn't play two DII games that year like they usually did throughout the 90's.

'97 was the year YSU won the National Championship. They went 9-2 in season with only one sub-d1 game (Slippery Rock). We actually had a better conference record (5-1) than YSU (4-2). But we had 3 non-conference losses (0-66 at Iowa, 5-22 at McNeese St., 24-38 at Cal Poly), leaving us at 7-4 with one being a non-counting d2 win over Mankato St.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Scheduling

I worry a lot. An SIU loss will give UNI the autobid, but I don't think we back into a seed that way. It may have happened, but does anyone remember a seeded team NOT being an autobid team? UNI could finish 10-2, get it's first at large bid and be considered team 11-14 in the field. A SIU loss may get us home cooking for a week or two, but a seed? IMO highly unlikely.

SIU lost a week later than us. We are ranked higher in every poll. It's similar to the BCS. If you are going to lose one, the sooner the better.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Scheduling

Well, let's see.

Southern Illinois. Last Year. # 4 seed. (auto-bid went to someone else)

Texas State. 2005. #4 seed. (auto-bid went to Nicholls State and they got sent to Furman, I believe).

Those are just off the top of my head.

I think two seeds will possibly be from teams without auto-bids this year. Montana is in line for a likely #3 seed (I think JMU and App State have the lines for 1/2) and we are in contention for the #4.

My thoughts. We get the 4 seed and have to play our way through CAA at-larges until we hit JMU in the semis. SIU or SDSU get sent to Montana in the first round.

PS- Montana also will not get the auto bid. that is guaranteed

[06panther10]

Re: Scheduling

Question- Has anyone ever been co-conference champions in a major conference like the Valley and NOT made the playoffs? I know this is not a problem for us, but I was just curious. I could see a scenario where SDSU beating SIU and NDSU and finish as co-champions with us, and still miss the playoffs.

[JayJ79]

Re: Scheduling

SIU lost a week later than us. We are ranked higher in every poll. It's similar to the BCS. If you are going to lose one, the sooner the better.

I think the fact that they lost to NDSU, who turned out to be not-so-good this year had more to do with it. While we lost to SIU. bit of a difference.

[Khan4Cats]

Re: Scheduling

PS- Montana also will not get the auto bid. that is guaranteed

Yes, which is why if you read what you quoted from me, I was answering a question about teams receiving seeds without being the auto-bid from their conference. I mentioned two previous ones and noted that Montana was in line to get another one this year (ie a seed without the auto-bid).

[rabidrabbit]

Re: Scheduling

The difference between Montana and Weber State is that Weber State has ZERO non-conference D-I wins. They played a D-II and and NAIA (both wins) and 2 FBS schools (both losses). Montana at 11-1 will be tough to not seed. We will be in a battle with Weber for the 4th seed (assuming ASU and JMU take care of their business).

Other teams that could be considered for seeds include Elon (potential 10-2 with all counter games) and South Carolina State (will a MEAC school really get a seed?). Southern Illinois has an outside shot at a seed by winning out, maybe Tennessee State or Villanova.

Hampton was a seed in 2006, and got blown out by Richmond.

Wofford, 2007, was the SoCon auto-bid, and got shipped off to MT to play. ASU home gamed it all the way through, although IIRC, they weren't seeded.