17,190 Highest attendance ever!

[Panther-Sheik]

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Good mis-read of the intent of my post. Carry on.

[Big_Al]

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Why does everyone keep saying this? Just last year we were the opposite side of Montana.

Because of regionalization. Since the committee's mandate is to keep travel costs low, if the MVFC gets 3 bids (which I think is a strong possibility) and no seed (which is 50/50, imo) then they'll stick everyone together on the same side of the bracket. Remember, once the field is determined and the seeds selected, games are picked by bid and travel costs, not by where the quality games are.

Now, there's still a lot of football to be played between now and selection time, so we're kind of getting ahead of ourselves. But isn't that what a message board is for?

[TH1974]

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Good mis-read of the intent of my post. Carry on.

Sorry. I must have misunderstood this line:

I think the high attendance worked to our detriment this weekend.

[JayJ79]

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Good mis-read of the intent of my post. Carry on.

There will always be hype for UNI/SIU football games,
especially if both teams are in contention.

If players can't handle the hype in those type of games, then we certainly won't be able to acheive our goal of that elusive NC.

[FOTY]

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Crow I will not eat. It took only the stupidity of our athletic department to schedule our biggest rival on our biggest day to make it happen. (something that should never happen).

You missed the point of my post back after the Iowa game. The point was not necassarily that we wouldn't sell out (which I did say I admit) but that we missed an opportunity for continued sell outs with the loss.

Seriously, a fellow fan asking another fan to eat crow on their own message board? Weak.

I have had to eat crow before, last basketball season I ate a lot of it. Remember when that DB came here saying that EP was going to be drafted and I told him he was wrong for like a month straight? The EP didn't get drafted, I asked for no crow. See you FOTY, thanks for your insight into this thread.

One post calling out your negativity on this board and I'm asked to leave. No thanks.

I admit, I don't have that much insight, and most on a message board don't... I wasn't providing any insight to anything other than not to take your word on our future ticket sales / attendence.

I disagreed with your post in the first place, and wanted to remind you of the last time you wanted to predict future attendence. You knew the schedule yet stated that we would not sell out a single game. Your negativity attempted to drag some down after what I thought was a good day in Iowa City. Saturday did more to hurt our ticket sales/attendence than the kicks in the Iowa game ever could. My opinion is that the potential that those kicks represented helped, not hurt us. I can tell you 7 names of individuals who purchased tix for UNI games after seeing the Iowa game - they are Iowa ticket holders who whated to see more of UNI.

I agree with you that I don't understand the schedule with both potential sellouts for the same game (Homecoming and SIU), but that is entirely another subject.

As for the future, win in SDSU and we may see 14k for one of the remaining games. I wouldn't bet on it, but it may happen.

I never asked you to eat crow for your last projection, I'm just hoping your wrong on your attendence projections....again. Oh, and I'm not going anywhere, other than the 10 hour drive home.

[Panther-Sheik]

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Sorry. I must have misunderstood this line:

The line was, "I think the high attendance worked to our detriment this weekend...or at least all the hype of this game." Good job cutting off the intent of the post. Are you a politician? The comment about the size of the crowd on my part was to show that this game DID have a lot more hype...for the players and especially the fans who showed up in droves. They looked like they let it get to them on the field. I agree, Jay, that there is always hype for this game. There was hype for the Delaware game two years ago. I wasn't trying to "excuse" the play...just my opinion on explaining it. I've been in that situation where you want more than anything to perform well, but your body just feels tight. That's stress and pressure. You have to overcome those feelings and play through it...and that's why I think this game COULD potentially help us down the road if the guys don't let it destroy them. Bottom line, though, is I have heard far too much bashing of the players after this game and I think it stinks for a "fan" base to bash it's players like this for losing a game they wanted to win more than any of the rest of us "fans in the stands". PG, Sonie, Oordt and the rest tried their asses off...probably a little too hard instead of just playing football and letting it happen. And...To clarify for TH's sake...I loved the crowd size and would like nothing more than to play in front of a sellout every week. The answer to the pressure isn't to have a smaller crowd, but to have MORE sellouts.

[TH1974]

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Bottom line, though, is I have heard far too much bashing of the players after this game and I think it stinks for a "fan" base to bash it's players like this for losing a game they wanted to win more than any of the rest of us "fans in the stands".

True. That's even worse than making up excuses for them. Like, the high attendance and hype of the game caused them to play badly.

I'd imagine that if Kinnick Stadium only held 35,000 people, UNI would have won by three touchdowns that week.

Nice spin, by the way. Are *you* a politician?

[TravelingPanther]

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Because of regionalization. Since the committee's mandate is to keep travel costs low, if the MVFC gets 3 bids (which I think is a strong possibility) and no seed (which is 50/50, imo) then they'll stick everyone together on the same side of the bracket. Remember, once the field is determined and the seeds selected, games are picked by bid and travel costs, not by where the quality games are.

Now, there's still a lot of football to be played between now and selection time, so we're kind of getting ahead of ourselves. But isn't that what a message board is for?

Right, but that's nothing different than last year. Travel and regionalization is supposedly always important, but yet we never get the OVC team at home, and rarely the Southland.

2001- at EIU (OVC, rare occasion), Maine at home, at Montana
2003- Montana State, sent to Delaware
2005- EWU at home, sent to New Hampshire, sent to Texas State
2007- New Hampshire at home, Delaware at home
2008- Maine at home, New Hampshire at home(went to SIU first round), Richmond at home.

They do a terrible job regionalizing. In 13 playoff games we've seen the OVC team once, and 1 Southland school.

[Trapped in California]

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SIU, WIU or back in the day Western KY usually gets the OVC team, otherwise it heads east to somewhere like Richmond.

[06panther10]

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We have had some tough draws in the playoffs. UNH (x3), UD, Richmond, EWU, etc...

I wish we could play an OVC team or some team from the west for once. In '07 Delaware had to play freaking terrible Delaware St the week before they played us while we were in a dog fight with a really tough UNH team, with an award winning QB. And WE had the #1 seed that year.

[PantherFan]

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Right, but that's nothing different than last year. Travel and regionalization is supposedly always important, but yet we never get the OVC team at home, and rarely the Southland.

2001- at EIU (OVC, rare occasion), Maine at home, at Montana
2003- Montana State, sent to Delaware
2005- EWU at home, sent to New Hampshire, sent to Texas State
2007- New Hampshire at home, Delaware at home
2008- Maine at home, New Hampshire at home(went to SIU first round), Richmond at home.

They do a terrible job regionalizing. In 13 playoff games we've seen the OVC team once, and 1 Southland school.

The regionalization only applies to the first round. After that, it's whoever wins.

[Panthers to the Bone]

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If UNI wins this weekend, they will be in position to run the table. UNI will throw some ticket discounts out there for the last two games, IMO. That will keep the crowd near the 14,000+ mark. Iowa plays at home against Northwestern when UNI hosts Youngstown, and Iowa plays at Ohio State the day/night that UNI hosts Western Illinois. My guess is the Iowa/OSU game will be the ABC late game, and thus, the crowd won't be so hot (along with the fact that UNI will play on KWWL that night too). I don't believe there will be any more sellouts, but if UNI is in the hunt for a conference title (UNI beats SDSU and SDSU beats SIU), then I think the 14K+ is very possible. Plus, UNI tends to get a bump from state playoff teams sticking around after their games for that last home game.

Lastly, is it really the UNI athletic department that sets the designation for the Homecoming and Family Weekend games? I imagine that they are set by the university. With the way the schedule was put together, I can't imagine that UNI would have Family Weekend or Homecoming any differently. They may flip flop in dates, but those two games are going to be 'event' games.

[CincyPanther88]

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I wish we could play an OVC team or some team from the west for once.

We've played Eastern Washington a few times in the first round.

[JayJ79]

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The regionalization only applies to the first round. After that, it's whoever wins.

They'll often set up the brackets so that some regionalization applies to subsequent rounds as well.

for instance, last year: Montana, Texas State, Cal-Poly, and Weber State were all put in the same quarter of the bracket so that the western teams would knock each other out in the first and second rounds.

Likewise, UNI and SIU were put in the same quarter, so that if both won first round, they'd play each other.

[jegbomb52]

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If UNI wins this weekend, they will be in position to run the table. UNI will throw some ticket discounts out there for the last two games, IMO. That will keep the crowd near the 14,000+ mark. Iowa plays at home against Northwestern when UNI hosts Youngstown, and Iowa plays at Ohio State the day/night that UNI hosts Western Illinois. My guess is the Iowa/OSU game will be the ABC late game, and thus, the crowd won't be so hot (along with the fact that UNI will play on KWWL that night too). I don't believe there will be any more sellouts, but if UNI is in the hunt for a conference title (UNI beats SDSU and SDSU beats SIU), then I think the 14K+ is very possible. Plus, UNI tends to get a bump from state playoff teams sticking around after their games for that last home game.

Lastly, is it really the UNI athletic department that sets the designation for the Homecoming and Family Weekend games? I imagine that they are set by the university. With the way the schedule was put together, I can't imagine that UNI would have Family Weekend or Homecoming any differently. They may flip flop in dates, but those two games are going to be 'event' games.

I don't know who is in charge of scheduling but it needs to be looked at.

It almost makes me as mad as when the schedule Cubs vs Cardinals games for Saturday afternoons when the draw would be just as big on Tuesday afternoons. Play the freaking Brewers or Pirates on the weekends!

Play Indiana State or South Dakota for homecoming (15K +)
Then play SIU (15K+)