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How is it that Laurey is getting tried four times for the same thing??? Isn't there something in the constitution that says that can not happen. What's the deal?
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You bring up a very valid and important point. That has been the Defense teams position as of late. The prosecution, however, contends that when a trial ends in mistrial, the defendant has not been found guilty or innocent and that he has yet to be tried "in full". So, you see, it can be argued that the defendant has not yet been "tried. What complicates this further is that when economics are considered, the State's DA can continue to bring the case to trial time and time again, paid for by the taxpayers ultimately exhausting the defendants economic resources, because the defense often may have limited or no funds. So to keep from running out of funds and subsequently becoming unable to properly or strongly defend oneself, a defendant essentially gets put in a position where they feel compelled to plea bargain because the chance of losing is realistically increased with the inability to afford defense. At the same time, a wealthy defendant may be able to exhaust the State or the citizen's patience with seeing a trial through, therefore creating a scenario whereby a plea bargian may have better outcome than the ultimate findings of a jury trial(s)...Originally posted by Panther FANatic
Frankly, it looks like the above description has been the strategy that the Prosecutors have used in this series of mistrials. I am not making any kind of statement as to the defendants guilt or not. I am simply describing a legal situation that can precipitate and looks like it has in this case.
This case has been an unfortunate situation for all parties involved. However, I do not approve of the Nancy Grace's and her counterparts of the world who will call everyone guilty or innocent purely by opinion, and particularly when done on public television simply because it will gain viewers purely by the morbidly curious nature of humans. Look up the meaning of the german word "Schattenfreude".
Really, no one has any basis to argue the guilt or innocence of anyone unless they were an actual witness. This should be left up to the involved parties and the legal system to wrangle.Irreverence is another person's disrespect to your god; there isn't any word that tells what your disrespect to his god is. -- Mark Twain -
There will be no 4th trial. Laury entered an Alford Plea and awaits sentencing.Originally posted by Panther FANatic
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Is there any connection between the term "Alford plea" and the troubles that a certain Alford, whose affiliations in the State of Iowa I won't mention, has been plagued with?Originally posted by JCPanthers
Irreverence is another person's disrespect to your god; there isn't any word that tells what your disrespect to his god is. -- Mark TwainComment
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funny joke, but an alford plea, is not an admission of guilt it's a plea where you plead down but you are admitting that there is a possibility of being found guilty if the case were to go to trial. That's kind of confusing language but that's my understanding. Also, when a case ends in a hung jury, a retrial doesn't fall under double jeopardy.Comment
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Well I don't think that's funny. Why do you find it necessary to bash Iowa over the legal problems of one of their student athletes. How would you like it if hawk fans come on here now and bash UNI over this athlete and this plea? Why the hatred, can't we all just get along? You may think it is a harmless joke to link that legal term to the iowa coach, but it could have long term effects on their program. They might have to spend thousands of dollars now to make it clear that there is no connection. Hasn't Alford already cost Iowa millions in wasted salary and lost revenue? Do you have to add to the misery?GO PANTHERS!Comment
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Hey Gonzo. This is obviously an important issue for you. Please read my post again.
My bash had nothing to do with Iowa, but rather was directed at Alford himself. The sooner he is gone from that program, the better off the Iowa program will be. That's my two cents. In fact I would almost expect to be called out as an Iowa supporter for bashing Alford on this board.
If you want to parse it down between the problems that UNI and SUI have had with student athletes and the manner in which they were handled, I feel that Farley handled the situation correctly while Alford did not.
Kudos to Coach Farley!
There is simply no room for any sort of behavior that endangers an entire program. If 99 other Athletes seem to know this and handle it well with the proper discipline that is respectful of the opportunity they have been given, there is no reason why 1 should drag them down, regardless of that athletes ability.Irreverence is another person's disrespect to your god; there isn't any word that tells what your disrespect to his god is. -- Mark TwainComment
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Too funny!!!Hasn't Alford already cost Iowa millions in wasted salary and lost revenue? Do you have to add to the misery?Comment
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LOL, this is an issue that is of zero importance to me. I guess sarcasm is lost on you. I needed a couple of these
Go back and read the dead grass in kinnick thread and see if you can connect my post here to some of those there.GO PANTHERS!Comment
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I get it... Sorry. It has been difficult to discern sarcasm from serious in recent weeks on here so I felt compelled to... oh well you get it too.Originally posted by GonzoCatLOL, this is an issue that is of zero importance to me. I guess sarcasm is lost on you. I needed a couple of these
Go back and read the dead grass in kinnick thread and see if you can connect my post here to some of those there.
Irreverence is another person's disrespect to your god; there isn't any word that tells what your disrespect to his god is. -- Mark TwainComment
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