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[Cap'n Cat]

I had to quote the post to see that pic again!!

Good work, Cap'n.

I'd be happy to go on a I-AA cheerleader hunt!!

peace

igo4uni

Hey, guys, that ain't all. You shoulda seen their coach!

BOING!!!

I woulda got a pic of her, but she was getting kinda impatient with the two or three guys taking pictures of the gurlz while she was trying to give them a last-minute talk!

What'd she expect???????

Spent eight months in Utah and the girls are SMOKIN' hot! It's the squeaky-clean culture out there. No hard livin', no cigarettes, no drinkin', no genital jewelry, etc.

[panther2317]

My cousin worked at Utah State for a couple of years and I had a buddy who coached basketball at Southern Utah and they both said it was like living in another country. You had to be a member of a bar to get a beer? What's that all about?

[Cap'n Cat]

My cousin worked at Utah State for a couple of years and I had a buddy who coached basketball at Southern Utah and they both said it was like living in another country. You had to be a member of a bar to get a beer? What's that all about?

Well, not exactly. It is a very restrictive drinking environment out there, but there are some misperceptions. Some facts:

1. All beer sold in Utah is 3.2% alc/volume (except in restaurants that make their own beer and serve food - brewpubs - where it can be 4.0). One exception listed below.

2. If a bar serves both hard alcohol and beer, you need to be a member of that club to drink there. However, you can buy, for a nominal ($4-$5) fee, a "membership" that lasts for three to five weeks, after which time you would have to renew it. If a bar serves beer only, no membership is required.

3. In a membership-required bar, bartenders cannot serve you from the bar!!! They have to leave from behind the bar and serve you from the floor. No sh*t! This is the case at all Applebee's/Chili's type places.

4. Hard liquor bottles all over the state have electronic metering devices on them that rigorously control how much goes into a shot! Bartenders are not allowed, when a bottle gets low, to remove the meter and toss the last splash from the bottom into your drink!

5. Guiness beer is considered hard liquor in Utah and cannot be sold or served unless during hard liquor hours! Other beer can be bought most any time during the day and even into late evening.

6. We could not order "doubles" out there, as in a double Crown on the rocks. You must drink the first shot, then MAYBE you'll get the second one, depending on how fast the bartender judges you to be drinking!

7. There are state-run liquor stores that control 100% of the retail hard liquor trade. They also sell "normal" (as we're used to) alcohol beer. One problem: VERY expensive. Case of Coors Light at a state-owned store could run you $20, or more.

8. Most of the time, the guys on my project just said, "To hell with this", and made the 35 mile drive up to Malad, Idaho, where anything goes as far as liquor and beer is concerned.

Utah has, for years, come under fire for its antiquated liquor laws and loses a lot of convention business due to the above restrictions. The new governor has said he will look into some modifications. Nothing will change, though.

[panther2317]

I've also been told that there is just one set of local channels for the entire state? As in, there's only 1 ABC, 1 NBC, 1 CBS for all of the state. Also, Saturday Night Live does not appear on NBC in Utah because the LDS owns the station? Is this all true?

[Luther_Heggs]

I spent two weeks this year in Salt Lake City...which is spectacular. I did notice all the things the Cap'n said about alcohol. Basically, the Mormons will allow people to drink, but they do not want to make it convenient.

Every time I fly through Salt Lake City, I am impressed with the city, mountains, frick'n six lane highways with hardly ANY traffic on them! I am definately going back there some time on vacation.

[01PantherFan]

Sounds like athe Capn should write a tour guide for places to go along with the calendar !

[Cap'n Cat]

I've also been told that there is just one set of local channels for the entire state? As in, there's only 1 ABC, 1 NBC, 1 CBS for all of the state. Also, Saturday Night Live does not appear on NBC in Utah because the LDS owns the station? Is this all true?

Regarding the TV stations thing, 17, that may be true, but not out of malice or anything like that. Most of Utah is desert and remote mountains and SLC is THE only media center for hundreds and hundreds of miles in all directions. Next nearest metro area is Las Vegas, some 400 miles from SLC. NEXT nearest is probably Boise, but that's not very big. Thus, the media outlets in SLC have taken the responsibility for news and info for all of Utah, much of western Wyoming, southern Idaho, eastern Nevada and other places. It's a matter of geography and service, nothing else.

SNL? I watched it on NBC in Utah, unless I was watching some other cable channel.

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BTW, though the liquor laws are goofy, Utah has A LOT to offer visitors. Everyone overemphasizes the role of the LDS church in day-to-day life there. It's not bad at all. Yeah, it's tough to find porn mags and DVD's (we always drove to Evanston, WY, for that. And for strong beer, it's a neighboring state, provided you near one - Utah is very expansive.

But the Uintah mountains, SE of SLC are the most beautiful and remote mountains in the U.S, save for Alaska's, in terms of accessibility. There are only two two-lanes that go through that range, with nothing (NOTHING) but raw wilderness in between. Capitol Reef and Zion National Parks are breathtakingly scenic as are the Colorado and Green River canyons. The Bear Lake region is a great place along the way to Yellowstone. A must-see, also, is the Flaming Gorge National Rec Area, which straddles Wyoming and Utah south of Green River, WY. Cap'n Cat spent many a day fishing the shores of it's wild canyons.

I strongly recommend visiting Utah anytime you can. There are several really good brewpubs in the SLC and Ogden areas, too!

Flaming Gorge NRA:



Bear Lake overlook:



Zion National Park: