Lehigh Stats and Fun Facts

[Big Cats]

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good ole religion. the cause of most conflict. haha.

Amen to that, brother!

[Trapped in California]

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I never thought I would see the term riot associated with Presbyterians and Episcopalians - that's badass.

[RichH2]

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Rivalry is actually fun for the most part. Riots have slackened off since tailgating was curtailed and game moved to noon. Schools draw almost identical student populations ( altho LC swears we cant read and we know they cant think). Outside of sports, we all co-exist OK.

Littlejohn a solid 2nd team db, he threw the punch and now sits. Should not hurt D. If I recall we got 18 or 19 on the PL teams just announced.

[ngineer]

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Lehigh HC, Andy Coen, was name PL Coach of the Year today and is finalist for the Eddie Robinson award. He's persevered through three losing seasons, 4-7 last year, so going 9-2 this year, when Lehigh was preseason picked fourth in the PL, is a pretty good turnaround.

[JayJ79]

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Lehigh HC, Andy Coen, was name PL Coach of the Year today and is finalist for the Eddie Robinson award. He's persevered through three losing seasons, 4-7 last year, so going 9-2 this year, when Lehigh was preseason picked fourth in the PL, is a pretty good turnaround.

UNI was 4th in the MVFC poll too.
Of course this has been such a wacky year for the conference that the preseason poll just looks ridiculous now. But UNI doesn't have losing seasons, so there's no big turnaround (actually, we finished with the same overall record that we did last year, but a better conference record), so no coaching awards for Farley this year.

[LFN]

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Yep. The last year "the riot" took place was '92 I think. Lehigh in its infinite wisdom decided they were sick of the goal-post thing, so they decided to install all-steel, concrete encased goal posts. They also greased them to keep the student off of them. It was raining all day and obviously the students tried to tear them down anyway. Frustrated by their lack of progress, students elected instead to throw huge chucks of turf and mud at police. In turn, Bethlehem's finest proceeded to beat and mace scores of students in front of every man, woman, and child in the stadium.

Needless to say, that was that. Student are now threatened with EXPULSION if they are arrested at "The Rivalry".

1992. My senior year. Did we mention that the police tear-gassed the students and that Lehigh president at the time Peter Likins got a whiff of the stuff when attempting to present the postgame awards?

There is nothing quite like seeing hunks of turf flying through the air. I don't think I'll ever see anything like that ever again.

[ngineer]

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1992. My senior year. Did we mention that the police tear-gassed the students and that Lehigh president at the time Peter Likins got a whiff of the stuff when attempting to present the postgame awards?

There is nothing quite like seeing hunks of turf flying through the air. I don't think I'll ever see anything like that ever again.

That was downright scary. I had both my kids with me (ages 12 and 6 at the time) and got a little concerned when they started dragging some of the students up the stairs near our section and the tear gas wafting about.

1975 was also an incredible year when the goal posts came down at halftime. Of course, Lehigh was winning 38-0, or so, at the time,so it didn't effect the outcome of preventing someone a game winning field goal.

There is nothing like Lehigh-Lafayette. I was at Dodger Stadium in LA about 6 years ago with my Lehigh cap on. Two Californians asked me if I went there and when I said yes, they told me they go to one of the big 'rivalry games' every year (Michigan-OSU, Auburn-Alabama, Army-Navy, Stanford-Cal,etc.) and that two years earlier they had gone to Lehigh-Lafayette and agreed they never saw students in a more intense atmosphere. We may not have the number of fans (both schools, combined, only have 7,000 students), but the emotional energy is unmatched.

[Cat80]

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The schools honestly HATE each other. As most conflicts go, it started over 100 years ago over religious fervor between the Presbyterians and Episcopalians. Most students don't even know that anymore, but the custom of ill-will towards each other is ingrained into the campus culture nonetheless.

Which is which? Lehigh Piskie or Presbie?

[LehighGuy]

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Which is which? Lehigh Piskie or Presbie?

The Lehigh founder was a Piskie....its no more a hallmark of the institution though.

[Cat80]

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The Lehigh founder was a Piskie....its no more a hallmark of the institution though.

Thanks. I was curious as to the roots of the rivalry.

[ngineer]

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While Lehigh's founder was a 'piskie', I don't recall that any religious affiliation had any effect upon admission. Most small colleges in PA began as church affiliated institutions, and if Lehigh were "officially" affiliated, it was dissolved many, many decades ago. Same with Lafayette (affectionately known as Laugheyette, Laughteryette, or any other derivation of laughter).

From tradition standpoint, Lehigh is unofficially credited with creating the infamous "Flying Wedge" or "V-wedge" that was eventually banned at the turn of the 20th century.

[Cat80]

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While Lehigh's founder was a 'piskie', I don't recall that any religious affiliation had any effect upon admission. Most small colleges in PA began as church affiliated institutions, and if Lehigh were "officially" affiliated, it was dissolved many, many decades ago. Same with Lafayette (affectionately known as Laugheyette, Laughteryette, or any other derivation of laughter).

From tradition standpoint, Lehigh is unofficially credited with creating the infamous "Flying Wedge" or "V-wedge" that was eventually banned at the turn of the 20th century.

Similar to the private institutions here. One has to break the code of their current description. One might say 'affiliated with...' or another 'founded by...'. An example is Lehigh's other Iowa opponent this season, Drake. Drake was founded as an institution by the Disciples of Christ, but does not have a current relationship with that group. Thanks for the flying wedge info. One more? Has the Rivalry been played continuously since started or have there been gaps?

[JayJ79]

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Has the Rivalry been played continuously since started or have there been gaps?

looks to me like 1896 is the only year that it wasn't played (and there were a number of years where the two played each other twice in a year)

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/patriot/lehigh/opponents_records.php?teamid=1667

[Herdman]

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Similar to the private institutions here. One has to break the code of their current description. One might say 'affiliated with...' or another 'founded by...'. An example is Lehigh's other Iowa opponent this season, Drake. Drake was founded as an institution by the Disciples of Christ, but does not have a current relationship with that group. Thanks for the flying wedge info. One more? Has the Rivalry been played continuously since started or have there been gaps?

Are you sure about that? I thought it was founded by the Methodists and de-affiliated like many, many other college and universities by the Methodist Church in the
'50s when the church went through reorganization.

[JayJ79]

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Are you sure about that? I thought it was founded by the Methodists and de-affiliated like many, many other college and universities by the Methodist Church in the
'50s when the church went through reorganization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_University#History

http://www.drake.edu/about/history.php

both mention Disciples of Christ