We are bad...

[Panther-Sheik]

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Again, I will say that if this new offensive system is really what they want to do then they need to commit to it. Bringing your "passing" QB in on obvious passing downs makes this staff look amateurish.

It will probably take another year of growing pains before the system is fully implemented, but the staff needs to do everything to play that way if that is what they want.

There is a tradition of offense here at UNI, and they seem to want to change it. I have no problem with that, but you have Rennie for one more year, and then what? We need to be recruiting for this shift in philosophy.

My fear is that the coaches (ok Farley) won't have the conviction to go with the change, and half ass it the way they did this year.

If we don't already have screen passes, draw plays, hot routes, WR screens etc in our system then shame on us. Tirrell Rennie should not have caused a complete overhaul of our offensive system. It is the same that Eric Sanders and Grace ran last year. You just have to call the right plays to the players' strenghts and not just pre-script your plays. All of this to say, "Shame on us".

[Chitown Panther]

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I'm no OL expert....but this style of play has to be difficult on the OL to adjust to as well. Are they pass blocking or run blocking....if pass blocking make sure you are not illegally down field with a QB who is run happy.

I would guess that Nevada and Oklahoma are model Pistol Offenses.
BOTH use shorter, lighter more athletic Olines, with QBs who are 6-4 and 6-6 with strong arms.

I don't think we have the right pieces for the pistol model.

I'd rather see a pro style offense. Hopefully Rennie's passing improves or we will see ALOT of Lehigh defenses next year.

[D Panther]

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Sorry but when Rennie was given the job half of the playbook was lost. His lack of arm strength and size took that away. The coaching staff realized that. Rennie is 1 dementional and with his athletic abilty he was able to make plays. The problem is that he and C Anderson are the same type of runner. When we played better teams they were able to box in Rennie and make him beat them with his arm.

[Panther-Sheik]

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Sorry but when Rennie was given the job half of the playbook was lost. His lack of arm strength and size took that away. The coaching staff realized that. Rennie is 1 dementional and with his athletic abilty he was able to make plays. The problem is that he and C Anderson are the same type of runner. When we played better teams they were able to box in Rennie and make him beat them with his arm.

What a bunch of BS. He has no arm strength so the coaches threw out all of the short, quick routes and only left the 20 yard patterns? Well, after watching our offensive coaching maybe this really did happen.
He is not as one dimensional as our play calling made him. Davis would have done no better. In fact, last week at Western we really did no better except for a couple mop up TDs. It is scheme and until we swallow that pill whole, we will be doing this year after year.

[D Panther]

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I agree that next will be the same without making some changes. If we are an option team we need a big back to pound the middle. If we continue with the same offense then we need a different QB. I am not saying Davis, in fact I hope he transfers. But Rennie is one dementional, the type of passing patterns you are asking for require arm strenth that Rennie simply does not have. Salmon is an easy target when we underachive, but he understood Rennie's limitations.

[TravelingPanther]

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I'm no OL expert....but this style of play has to be difficult on the OL to adjust to as well. Are they pass blocking or run blocking....if pass blocking make sure you are not illegally down field with a QB who is run happy.

I would guess that Nevada and Oklahoma are model Pistol Offenses.
BOTH use shorter, lighter more athletic Olines, with QBs who are 6-4 and 6-6 with strong arms.

I don't think we have the right pieces for the pistol model.

I'd rather see a pro style offense. Hopefully Rennie's passing improves or we will see ALOT of Lehigh defenses next year.

Why would it matter if they were downfield if he ran? If you're pass blocking, pass block.

I played RT with many running QBs and pocket QBs. Sometimes in the same drive due to injury, and you blocked the way the play called for it. There was no confusion.

[TravelingPanther]

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Salmon is an easy target when we underachive, but he understood Rennie's limitations.

Why do people keep saying this? NO HE DIDN'T. If he understood Rennie's skill set we would not be running drop back passes with deep routes.

How can you even make that arguement?

[run&blade]

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If TR is the QB next year they need to go all the way with it and run some wishbone with him, Carlos, and they redshirt RB that is suppose to be good.