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    Gateway teams and the playoffs

    I know the prevailing attitude is that we're going to get multiple bids to the 1AA playoffs, two at a minumum, four at most.

    I wonder if that's true.

    This 'round robin' schedule for the front runners late in the year has been fantastic. Everyone in contention playing each other consecutively, scoreboard watching a plenty, and for our Panthers, a shot to climb back into another conference championship. Has it harmed the league, however?

    Follow me here...let's assume that we beat SIU on saturday, and WKU beats YSU. That will probably eliminate YSU, WKU will be on the bubble, as will SIU. Will the committee see a "strong league that beat up on itself" or just a bunch of teams with multiple-loss records? You can look at it and see outstanding football, or a league with several 'mediocre' teams fighting for the top.

    Obviously I'd disagree with the later, but you can understand the argument.

    Another scinerio, and one none of us are going to like. Assume we lose saturday, which will elminate us from the playoffs almost certainly (we won't be able to get to 7 D-1 wins). Then assume YSU beats WKU. VERY possibly, in that scinerio, SIU will be the lone representitive.

    While this type of schedule has been a blast to watch, and has allowed us to take over our own destiny, nationally does it get the image of a league canibalizing itself late in the year?
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    I think only 2 teams will get in. The problem this year is that Cal Poly and Coastal Carolina might be 8-3. Since Cal-Poly got snubbed last year and has been playing solid, I could see them and/or Coastal taking a spot from the Gateway. Plus the A-10 and Socon will get at least 3 in.

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    • #3
      It depends on whether WKU beats 1-A Florida Atlantic or A&M in the final game (I think it's one of those two).

      WKU will get in with 3 losses b/c they lost to 1-A Auburn, and two top 10 teams (if UNI wins Saturday).
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      • #4
        You can think back to two years ago when the Gateway got 4 teams in the playoffs or last year when we got 2 teams in. It's all up to the committe in the end though and what they see the Conference is like. We'll have to see how the next couple of weeks pan out until we can make an educated decision on this topic.
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        • #5
          I don't care how many GFC teams get in as long as UNI gets in.....

          I'm lying here in my hotel bed in San Diego tonight trying to stay calm.

          This is going to be sooooo much fun!

          I can't wait to drink on the hill....and then tailgate!

          Then see a VERY LARGE UNI-DOME crowd.....and the Panthers play their best game yet this year!!!!

          This crowd needs to be loud and in their seats 30mins before kickoff!!!

          SIU NEEDS TO SEE/HEAR THE CROWD DURING WARM UPS!!!! WE NEED A CHEER THAT CROSSES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE EAST AND WEST SIDE......GET ON IT PANTHER POSSE
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          • #6
            it all depends on whether the rise in quality and depth of the Gateway, especially the middle of the pack teams, is met with the same increase in respect by the commitee.

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            • #7
              If the committe believes that the Gateway is the strongest conference from top to bottom...they might get two and possibly 3 teams into the Dance.
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              • #8
                If we win

                Originally posted by Newsbreaker
                I know the prevailing attitude is that we're going to get multiple bids to the 1AA playoffs, two at a minumum, four at most.

                I wonder if that's true.

                This 'round robin' schedule for the front runners late in the year has been fantastic. Everyone in contention playing each other consecutively, scoreboard watching a plenty, and for our Panthers, a shot to climb back into another conference championship. Has it harmed the league, however?

                Follow me here...let's assume that we beat SIU on saturday, and WKU beats YSU. That will probably eliminate YSU, WKU will be on the bubble, as will SIU. Will the committee see a "strong league that beat up on itself" or just a bunch of teams with multiple-loss records? You can look at it and see outstanding football, or a league with several 'mediocre' teams fighting for the top.

                Obviously I'd disagree with the later, but you can understand the argument.

                Another scinerio, and one none of us are going to like. Assume we lose saturday, which will elminate us from the playoffs almost certainly (we won't be able to get to 7 D-1 wins). Then assume YSU beats WKU. VERY possibly, in that scinerio, SIU will be the lone representitive.

                While this type of schedule has been a blast to watch, and has allowed us to take over our own destiny, nationally does it get the image of a league canibalizing itself late in the year?

                If we win:

                UNI, WKU, SIU are locks (we are of course)

                YSU left out, unfortunately.
                FM

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FMPanther
                  If we win:

                  UNI, WKU, SIU are locks (we are of course)

                  YSU left out, unfortunately.
                  WKU needs to win one if not two more games to be in. Right now they only have 5 D1 wins (as do we).
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                  • #10
                    when

                    If we win on Saturday the rest of the Gateway would not have the easiest road to the playoffs. In fact if we win on Saturday there is a very realistic possibility that we could be the only GFC representative at all!

                    UNI wins on Saturday we are in as the auto bid, SIU has 3 losses now and still only 6 D-1 wins.

                    Say the next week SIU loses to a very competitive NDSU team they would be out! They're 6 D-1 wins would not qualify them for an at large bid.

                    WKU wins at YSU this Saturday eliminating YSU from contention with only 6 D-1 wins as well thanks to their tough home opener against Slippery Rock.

                    Now, Nov 19th WKU must travel to D-1A Florida Intn'l. If they lose that game they are 7-4 and only have 6 D-1 wins eliminating them from the play-offs.

                    If the selection comittee at that time feels that the GFC must have 2 bids the only other qualifying school with 7 D-1 wins would be IL State. This is worst case scenario for us as it would be a sure 2nd round match up due to proximity. Trust me, they would win in the playoffs.
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                    • #11
                      Great website outlining the updated playoff outlook. I did this kind of stuff in the past, and it was exhausting and very time consuming. I can greatly appreciate this guy who runs this updated outlook thing.

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