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  • Randy Ball out as MSU coach

    He and his staff got canned this morning:



  • #2
    This is probably way overdue. When I think Randy Ball, I think "failed expectations."

    "Once it starts, it never ends."
    -Eldon Miller

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    • #3
      When I think Randy Ball, I think "arrest warrant"

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      • #4
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        • #5
          I wonder what this will do for the hierarchy of the Gateway. SIU has turned it around pretty since they got coach Kill. MSU has some of the best resources of schools at our level. They will get a quality coach and will make strides back towards the upper division of the Gateway.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Reed Rothchild
            I wonder what this will do for the hierarchy of the Gateway. SIU has turned it around pretty since they got coach Kill. MSU has some of the best resources of schools at our level. They will get a quality coach and will make strides back towards the upper division of the Gateway.
            Of course that's why Ball went to MSU, because of the resources available there. He wasn't able to do anything with them though...
            If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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            • #7
              I don't buy MSU getting into the top of the league. At some point, you are what you are, resources or not. They can improve, and I hope they do, but I don't see them at the top of the league. To jump ahead of UNI (who has withstood and maintained dominance even with the addition of two teams that some thought would overwhelm the gateway), WKU, YSU and a recently very strong SIU squad will be quite the feat.

              If they do, these multi-champion years might become more common, as the league beats itself up, and 2 losses becomes the goal for a championship. Personally, I'm not sure that helps the league overall.

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              • #8
                If you want to know the opinion of someone who has worked there, I'll throw my two cents in right here. First of all, MSU does have some of the best resources in the conference and will be able to pay a coach pretty well and they continue to upgrade their facilities and Springfield is any easy place to recruit to as well. Also, they have a new president who was formerly at the University of Kentucky and he's very "pro"-football. He's aggressive and wants to win. This is a change from the former president who liked the athletics program there...but was not a 'rah-rah' type of guy. So I see them being aggressive in their search and having a chance to improve greatly.

                HOWEVER, Springfield is a basketball town. More specifically, it's a women's basketball town. The majority of the fan base there uses football as a social activity to talk about the upcoming women's basketball season. It's unreal. Also, there are people around town who are JUST "Lady Bear" fans. They could give a rats rear about any other program on that campus. I think it will always be this way UNTIL MSU proves it can win consistently on the football field.

                They will try their best to turn that program around, I just don't know if enough people in town care that it does turn around.
                "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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                • #9
                  Terry Allen will at least get a shot at the Missouri State job. Been rumored for some time.

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                  • #10
                    Terry Allen won't even consider it. I think Bobby Elliott of Kansas State Stoops brother who is at Miami or Florida I can't remember where he coaches or even Del Miller the former coach might be even get consider before Terry.
                    GO NORTHERN IOWA PANTHERS![SIZE="6"][/SIZE]

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                    • #11
                      I would be surprised if any of those guys take/get it. I have no knowledge on Terry Allen, but would not think he would want it. Bobby Elliott I am sure is thinking he can slide into the KS head job when Snyder retires which can't be too much longer. Any Stoops would only take a 1A job. Del Miller???
                      GO PANTHERS!

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                      • #12
                        Terry Allen will never go back to I-AA football. My guess is that they will go after the coach of a perennial power in DII. Either that or they will get a coordinator of a top 10 I-AA team. I will also venture a guess that they wouldn't go after an assistant from a Gateway school either. They took Randy Ball from a Gateway school and it was not thought of very highly at all.

                        Coach Farley and Salmon coming back to UNI was a rare blessing that occurs once in a lifetime. Most coaches would stay as an assistant in I-A if they are good enough to be a head coach in I-AA.

                        HOWEVER, Springfield is a basketball town. More specifically, it's a women's basketball town. The majority of the fan base there uses football as a social activity to talk about the upcoming women's basketball season. It's unreal. Also, there are people around town who are JUST "Lady Bear" fans. They could give a rats rear about any other program on that campus. I think it will always be this way UNTIL MSU proves it can win consistently on the football field.
                        I guarantee you that if their football team starts winning, they will become a football school. Look at SIU. They were basketball only until Coach Kill got there. Now its both.

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                        • #13
                          TA did interview for the NDSU gig a few years back......

                          In regards to MSU.....I think they could get in the top half of the league....but we know how difficult it is to stay there.....

                          WKU is on their way out the door.....I think Kill will jump for a better gig soon....ISU SHOULD be good next year (but stranger things have happened)....and YSU will be solid.

                          I think the Biggest ? is who joins the league when WKU leaves....

                          Could be wrong but I think a push for NDSU and SDSU seems reasonable....but it will upset the YSU fans as they are soooooo far east.
                          "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

                          dti

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                          • #14
                            Would Coach Salmon be interested in the MSU job?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Luther_Heggs
                              Would Coach Salmon be interested in the MSU job?

                              I sure hope not.

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