Best QB and Best RB in the State

[jnutt]

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Are you comparing the non-conf schedule of just the 3 state schools or comparing them nationally?
Nationally, ISU had a tough non-conf, probably 1st or 2nd toughest in the Big 12.
If you compare just the 3 state schools, here's their non conf schedules.

Iowa: Northern Illinois, ISU, UNI, Central Michigan
ISU: Tulsa, Iowa, Western Illinois
UNI: Wisconsin, Iowa, Central State (who? Are they D-2? NAIA?)

If comparing UNI's and ISU's:
Both have Iowa.
Wisky = Tulsa
Western Illinois > Central State

Even if you think Wisky is slightly better than Tulsa, the horribleness of Central State should make up for the difference.

Iowa's should have been "easy" but it seems as though they are bad so it made their schedule look tougher than it is. Northern Illinois is decent. ISU is usually a tough game, as is UNI. And Central Michigan is horrible.

I'm comparing the 3 in state schools against each other.

I'm not arguing on whether Iowa or Iowa State had a tougher schedule. Iowa's schedule was a joke. ISU's is tougher but no friggin way in hell is it tougher than UNI's. ISU never had to leave the state of Iowa and had 2 home games. UNI traveled TO Madison, TO Iowa City and TO Youngstown all in the first few weeks. Show me a school with a tougher schedule.

[9YRPLAN]

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iowa's schedule wasnt THAT bad. NIU won the MAC and was a road game and ISU was a bowl team and rivalry game. i suspect that both of those teams have good records at the end of the year.

[cydave]

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I'm comparing the 3 in state schools against each other.

I'm not arguing on whether Iowa or Iowa State had a tougher schedule. Iowa's schedule was a joke. ISU's is tougher but no friggin way in hell is it tougher than UNI's. ISU never had to leave the state of Iowa and had 2 home games. UNI traveled TO Madison, TO Iowa City and TO Youngstown all in the first few weeks. Show me a school with a tougher schedule.

Aren't they in the MVC?

Originally, I was just saying saying ISU's schedule wasn't soft.
I didn't say UNI's wasn't soft, I just said that Central State was the only really bad team they played, REALLY BAD. UNI did have a tough schedule, and I'm sure it will usually be tough if you need those money making games.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Honestly I don't know how we can have the best QB and RB in the state when we came in last in the state championship. I think we have a good QB and RB, but to this point they haven't been good enough to win a game, so I think they have to do a lot of winning from this point forward to justify that claim.

Wha? What kind of logic is that? So Drew Brees and Mark Ingram aren't better than the Cardinals QB and Beanie Wells,then - simply because one team is winning more than the other? That's a TEAM argument; this thread is about the performance of a couple of INDIVIDUALS.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Roll tide. National Champs!

Wouldn't it be fun to watch NDSU play Alabama?

Worst. Message Board. Username. EVER.

[jnutt]

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Aren't they in the MVC?

Originally, I was just saying saying ISU's schedule wasn't soft.
I didn't say UNI's wasn't soft, I just said that Central State was the only really bad team they played, REALLY BAD. UNI did have a tough schedule, and I'm sure it will usually be tough if you need those money making games.

they are in the MVC and the #3 ranked team in the FCS. I'd even argue that top 10 FCS schools are better than average FBS schools such as Tulsa and NIU

[panther-state]

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Nationally, ISU had a tough non-conf, probably 1st or 2nd toughest in the Big 12.

This is laughable. If they were 1st or 2nd in the Big XII what does that say about your conference members schedules? Very little.

Tulsa is a good team(despite Wisconsin's shortcomings I'd say the Badgers are still better), but I'd argue WIU only beats Central State by a touchdown or two. You are fortunate you can count them as a D-I win, they barely deserve that type of standing. They nearly lost to BUTLER for crying out loud! That's significantly worse than losing to Drake. They also only beat Indianapolis University by 10 points (a team also in Central States conference). That will be an absolute beating when UNI gets a shot at them

[cydave]

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This is laughable. If they were 1st or 2nd in the Big XII what does that say about your conference members schedules? Very little.

What does it say about our conference member schedules? It says that we play a hell of a lot tougher conference games, so why do we need to add more fire to our non conference schedule? Since we are now playing round robin in the Big 12, I would much rather play Iowa (for rivalry game sake) and then schedule 2 patty cake teams. There is no need for any Big 12 team to go out and load up the SOS in the non conference. If you look at the toughest schedules in the BCS leagues, every single Big 12 school is in the top 13. http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2012/Intern...games_cumm.pdf
ISU with the 3rd toughest schedule in the nation.

Unbiased sources opinion on Big 12 non conference SOS rankings:
ISU 2nd toughest: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...&sct=cf_t2_a11

David Ubben of ESPN also said ISU had the top 1 or 2 toughest non conference schedule. Too lazy to find the article.

Either way, easy or not, there's no reason for any Big 12 team to schedule a tough non-conference. Especially when 9/10 teams in your conference are either ranked in the top 25 or receiving votes.

[cydave]

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they are in the MVC and the #3 ranked team in the FCS. I'd even argue that top 10 FCS schools are better than average FBS schools such as Tulsa and NIU

I wouldn't say the top 10 FCS are "better" than average FBS schools. I would however agree that they are "on par" with average FBS schools. Where they lack is probably in the depth department. Their first strings are probably about equal, but the depth is where they might find themselves lacking.

[9YRPLAN]

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all little off topic in this thread, but check out this article. i thought this was an interesting look at the talent pool in CFB.

what would you guys think about spring FB in iowa?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...cent-struggles

[PantherHawk]

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Spring Football in the midwest would be tough. Weather would be one factor, but a lot of these football players are dual sport athletes.

Plus a lot of the 4A schools are already having spring ball starting this year. They can now hold morning sessions for practice before school. I know schools have been doing that for years, but I think now the state is going to allow it.

[BigTimeUNIFan1]

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My cousin Marcus Horne arrives on campus next semester. He's enrolling at Northern Iowa from Michigan State, 4 years of eligibility left! Here's the kids high school highlight links http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvkY4VLYc9U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJqu7BsyyTc. We offered him out of high school last year before he committed to the Spartans. The greyshirt ended up not working out. I think it's a great fit, him and David Johnson. Go Panthers!

[Chitown Panther]

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Can he play LB????

[BigTimeUNIFan1]

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Did you see him at RB? They won't put him at LB.

[Chitown Panther]

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May the best man see the field. There are slso 3 good rbs behind dj. There will b posiotion changes by someone....