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  • #1

    Your money's worth

    There's nothing in sports like playoff football at any level. And man the fans got their money's worth last night.

    Two great teams. Two great QBs. Big plays up and down the field. This was a classic. One of the best playoff games I've seen. If that doesn't get butts in seats then I'm not sure it's possible.

    Horne was huge. Sanders played big. Great job by UNI o-line and receivers. Defense hung tough and got over the top in the end. While the defense gave up some yards, they were playing a great offense for a lot of snaps. I really felt like the players were putting it all on the line all night. Can't even count the number of times I saw backers blitz on Meyer and vault themselves over a lineman and get flipped. They hung tough against the run and got pressure when it counted. How about that hit on EWU's tight end in the 1st quarter...vicious.

    This has been a great season so far. So many highs and lows. Fighting back from the brink so many times. It's been a great ride. Let's keep it going next Saturday.
    Winning is more fun than losing.
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    Wow! So true! Saturday night's game and being able to watch the other games in the play-offs yesterday really gave the day a "March Madness" type of feel for me! It's so much more meaningful than any bowl game. If the powers that be in the BCS know what they're doing (which I know they don't) they'd take a page from every other level of football, including the NFL and have a play-off instead of the antiquated bowl system which does nothing to determine a national champion.
    "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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    • #3
      On College Gameday last Saturday, Chris Fowler started talking up an 8 game playoff system. Then Corso, Herbstreit and Desmond Howard all disagreed and said they like things the way they are. Herbstreit did say he'd like a Plus One format (one extra game between top two teams), but otherwise no love for a playoff.

      Fowler was pissed. He could hardly finish the segment he was so incredulous. The others all basically said that the current system lets lots of teams finish the season on a positive note and puts less pressure on the coaches. They didn't use those exact words but that's what their message was. Fowler was about popping at the seams and called them all dinosaurs.

      I also enjoyed the comments the two announcers of the Texas State/GSU game made. They were talking about how great the atmosphere was and that settling it on the field was the way it should be done, not "like a bowl game where everyone shows up, plays the game then shakes hands and says that was fun, everyone got to travel, but it doesn't really matter too much if you win or lose" or something like that. I was surprised they were that blunt about it, but I think they hit it right on the head. All but a couple bowls are meaningless exhibition games with marginal intensity and no real circumstance. Frankly it's amazing the general public will consume this crap, but if you shine some bright lights on a pile of dung lots of people will stand around and look at it. (How's that for poetry)
      Winning is more fun than losing.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Blue42
        Frankly it's amazing the general public will consume this crap, but if you shine some bright lights on a pile of dung lots of people will stand around and look at it. (How's that for poetry)
        Very well said Blue!!!!!!!
        "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Blue42
          On College Gameday last Saturday, Chris Fowler started talking up an 8 game playoff system. Then Corso, Herbstreit and Desmond Howard all disagreed and said they like things the way they are. Herbstreit did say he'd like a Plus One format (one extra game between top two teams), but otherwise no love for a playoff.

          Fowler was pissed. He could hardly finish the segment he was so incredulous. The others all basically said that the current system lets lots of teams finish the season on a positive note and puts less pressure on the coaches. They didn't use those exact words but that's what their message was. Fowler was about popping at the seams and called them all dinosaurs.
          Herbsteit also brought up some valid points. How do you determine home games? How do you pick seeds? If you have the games at different bowls, who is going to travel to those sites for 4 weeks in a row? If that is the case, how are you going to keep 70.000 stadiums full for 4 weeks straight?

          What happens to those teams that are on the fringe who got screwed like Youngstown? What happens to the team that catches fire at the end but lost 2 games early?

          Does Oregon not get invited even though they only lost 1 game all year?

          You think the NCAA is corrupt now, can you imagine what it would be like with all that money on the line?

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          • #6
            First of all, those are all valid questions Reed, but I have some answers

            Having the games in nuetral locations (the current bowl sites) allows for two things, it gives both teams the chance to sell a ton of tickets to each and every game PLUS it gives locals in the area a chance to attend a play-off game, people would buy tickets. The NCAA Basketball Championships seem to have zero problems selling 50,000 + tickets in Domes over a 3 week period because all of the seats are pre-sold and then each teams receives an allotment after they've been selected to participate. Most of the NCAA sites for this year's tournament are already SOLD OUT...except for the tickets that will be given to the participating teams...so tickets are not an issue in my opinion.

            Also, in any post-season experience, there will be teams that feel like they got screwed. BUT, I would feel more comfortable leaving out the #17 and #18 teams of a tournament vs. what goes on right now. Last season, 3 teams ended the season undefeated and sports writers and a computer dubbed ONE of those the national champion...is THAT FAIR? In a play-off...one one team can win the final game and all teams worthy will be in the play-off. Let them decide it on the field...not in a back room somewhere by a sports writer that's never played a down of football.

            8 teams is not enough...it needs to be 16. The 1-AA format is perfect. I think there are 10 1-A conferences. Have a 10-game regular season that ends the 3rd weekend in November and then play games on Saturday's for the next 4 weekends. The teams that don't make the play-offs can still play in a Bowl game...it would be like the NIT for basketball...before anyone says, "that would diminish the meaning of each bowl game"...they already don't matter...except for the BCS Championship game...so they are already the equivalent of the NIT...it's just that no one outside of Fowler has the sack to admit it.
            "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by panther2317
              First of all, those are all valid questions Reed, but I have some answers

              Having the games in nuetral locations (the current bowl sites) allows for two things, it gives both teams the chance to sell a ton of tickets to each and every game PLUS it gives locals in the area a chance to attend a play-off game, people would buy tickets. The NCAA Basketball Championships seem to have zero problems selling 50,000 + tickets in Domes over a 3 week period because all of the seats are pre-sold and then each teams receives an allotment after they've been selected to participate. Most of the NCAA sites for this year's tournament are already SOLD OUT...except for the tickets that will be given to the participating teams...so tickets are not an issue in my opinion.

              Thats fine, but for football, we are talking about 80,000 seat stadiums and travel expenses for 56 players, staff, entourage, etc. As opposed to expenses for 12-15 basketball players, 3 coaches, smaller entourage, etc.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by panther2317
                Also, in any post-season experience, there will be teams that feel like they got screwed. BUT, I would feel more comfortable leaving out the #17 and #18 teams of a tournament vs. what goes on right now.
                It dosen't work like that. Youngstown St was a top 15 team this year but got screwed because of the autobids from other conferences. The same thing would happen in I-A but it would be worse.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Reed Rothchild
                  It dosen't work like that. Youngstown St was a top 15 team this year but got screwed because of the autobids from other conferences. The same thing would happen in I-A but it would be worse.
                  It would be a much worse. Does anyone want to see a team that goes undefeated in the WAC in an 8 or 16 team field, and not a 1 or 2 loss team from a larger conference? That's what would happen, and that doesn't help anybody.

                  I've said it before and I'll say it again...they should keep the six BCS leagues as 1A, move the rest into 1AA. It'd make 1AA more competitive, and let the big money folks have their own little big money world.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Reed Rothchild
                    It dosen't work like that. Youngstown St was a top 15 team this year but got screwed because of the autobids from other conferences. The same thing would happen in I-A but it would be worse.
                    But I'm ok with that Reed...many would say that Notre Dame and Maryland got screwed because UNI got into the NCAA's last season, but that's not true...it's because there are 34 Automatic bids and many from conferences that probably don't deserve a bid...but if you're trying to be INCLUSIVE...you give all of these conferences a chance to put their champion into the Dance.

                    If EVERY 1-A conference got an auto bid into the 1-A play-off system...it would (in my opinion) over time, spread more of the talent through all of 1-A instead of concentrating it at a handful of schools in the BCS conferences. It would create parity and more excitement on the field, because it might be harder for the traditional powers to monopolize all of the blue chip recruits.

                    Sure it might leave a team or two out, but it would get the teams that deserve a chance to PLAY for the national championship a chance to prove it on the field...and not on a computer/or a sports writers brain.

                    We'll have to agree to disagree here...but the current bowl system is a CROCK of MANURE. It's awful and it's designed to be EXCLUSIVE. Last season, Utah didn't even get a chance to prove how good they were. The computer and sports writers ASSUMED they couldn't compete with any of the BCS conferences...and that's sad. Let them prove it on the field.

                    The plus 1 format is stupid unless there are 4 undefeated (or 4 one loss)teams. 8 or 16-team play-off...it just makes sense.
                    "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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