Time for a Change

[Barnstormer]

Re: Time for a Change

Best. Post. Ever.

p.s. If you call people Kool-Aid drinkers, you deserve to at least be called an idiot. It's in the Geneva Conventions... look it up.

[jegbomb52]

Re: Time for a Change

Nobody on this board is an idiot nor should be subjected to name calling! It's absolutley right to disagree with one's posting or opinion but we should disagree respectfully. Most importantly, it's healthy to have vigorous discourse and maybe we can learn something from each other's posting. All of us love and want the best for the PANTHERS.
GO PANTHERS!!

I can be open and admit that wasn't cool to call you an idiot. You are right. For that I apologize. I can't respectfully disagree with you because I don't respect your opinion. It is healthy for us to have discourse, however, you need to understand that I might have fealt cut by your comments about Mark the way you fealt cut by me calling you an idiot.

And yes, I realize that I didn't call you the idiot, I called Captain 90...

We all do want what is best for the Panthers, you however I am afraid want what is best for your family / family members. If I am wrong on that I will apologize in advance. Have you ever thought that maybe for a minute if someone is not good enough to play at Northern Illinois, they might not be good enough to play at Northern Iowa?

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Time for a Change

I can be open and admit that wasn't cool to call you an idiot. You are right. For that I apologize. I can't respectfully disagree with you because I don't respect your opinion. It is healthy for us to have discourse, however, you need to understand that I might have fealt cut by your comments about Mark the way you fealt cut by me calling you an idiot.

And yes, I realize that I didn't call you the idiot, I called Captain 90...

We all do want what is best for the Panthers, you however I am afraid want what is best for your family / family members. If I am wrong on that I will apologize in advance. Have you ever thought that maybe for a minute if someone is not good enough to play at Northern Illinois, they might not be good enough to play at Northern Iowa?

you pussy.

[Hail Our Panthers]

Re: Time for a Change

Was I an all American? No.

False, we are all Americans.

Other than that, it really was a great post. I felt like George Washington reading the Constitution for the first time.

[jegbomb52]

Re: Time for a Change

you pussy.

I deserved that.

[1988]

Re: Time for a Change

Nobody on this board is an idiot nor should be subjected to name calling! It's absolutley right to disagree with one's posting or opinion but we should disagree respectfully. Most importantly, it's healthy to have vigorous discourse and maybe we can learn something from each other's posting. All of us love and want the best for the PANTHERS.
GO PANTHERS!!

I couldn't agree less...there are a crap load of idiots on this board.

Great post Jeg!!!

[Born-a-Panther]

Re: Time for a Change

Have you ever thought that maybe for a minute if someone is not good enough to play at Northern Illinois, they might not be good enough to play at Northern Iowa?

You, my friend, are on a roll.

[Newsbreaker]

Re: Time for a Change

You sir are an idiot. I have sat by and watched your posts, not sure if you are someone who didn't get enough playing time by Farley, or more likely someone who's kid is not playing enough under him now. Either way you have brought some points up that can't be denied. That’s why I haven't stepped in before. Are there coaches and players who don't like Farley, absolutely. Going to happen in any program.

I played under Farley, during a time when many had played under his predecessor as well. Did I have a huge roll? No. Was I an all American? No. Even a starter? Nope. However, I will tell you this, I was inside and a part of the program as a player. Even to this day I have managed to stay closer to the program than many. To answer your questions the answer is yes to both.

There is not one player that has played under Farley that hasn't had an opportunity to embrace the program and become a "Panther." If they have not, they are the ones to blame, not Farley. Even those that I know that have not, and do not see eye to eye with Farley understand his passion for UNI and have grown their own.

Is the program in a better place now than in 2001? No, 2001 it was in a great place, resurrected from the grave by none other than Mark Farley. Has it had its ups and downs since then? Yes, that is caused by expectations. Expectations that have been created by none other than Mark Farley. Without success in 2001, the expectation, then disappointment doesn't happen of 2002. The list goes on and on. We are a program with NFL players, not one, but several, facilities that rival many FBS programs, exposure, attendance numbers, national rankings, and most importantly expectations.

When we walk into a Big Eleven Stadium its not for a paycheck, its for a victory. I'm not talking about ISU, or an occasional pick up game against a K State program that has won a game in 3 years.

These are all in place because of Mark.

Do I wish things would change a bit, sure? Have I been critical? Sure. But this "he needs to go" stuff is stupid, all of your accusations are simply matters of opinion. An opinion that I would guess is slighted by a loved one on the team. Probably a linebacker seeing’s how that is the only position you criticize, and seem to know about. Best of luck to whoever your kid is, I hope he has half the experience being a panther that I did, only if you allow it of course. This isn’t high school dad. Get over it and get off the freaking message board.

This is a really great post.

Farley has a ton of rope because of what he's accomplished. One terrible season isn't going to hang him. It isn't even going to turn up the heat. I don't think three terrible seasons would do it.

[Barnstormer]

Re: Time for a Change

I don't know if this is a good example or not, but I think of how they got rid of Tom Davis thinking that is what they needed to get to the "next level." Didn't work out so well....

[Cap'n Cat]

Re: Time for a Change

I can be open and admit that wasn't cool to call you an idiot. You are right. For that I apologize. I can't respectfully disagree with you because I don't respect your opinion. It is healthy for us to have discourse, however, you need to understand that I might have fealt cut by your comments about Mark the way you fealt cut by me calling you an idiot.

And yes, I realize that I didn't call you the idiot, I called Captain 90...

We all do want what is best for the Panthers, you however I am afraid want what is best for your family / family members. If I am wrong on that I will apologize in advance. Have you ever thought that maybe for a minute if someone is not good enough to play at Northern Illinois, they might not be good enough to play at Northern Iowa?

Don't EVER apologize, N.

[panther2317]

Re: Time for a Change

You sir are an idiot. I have sat by and watched your posts, not sure if you are someone who didn't get enough playing time by Farley, or more likely someone who's kid is not playing enough under him now. Either way you have brought some points up that can't be denied. That’s why I haven't stepped in before. Are there coaches and players who don't like Farley, absolutely. Going to happen in any program.

I played under Farley, during a time when many had played under his predecessor as well. Did I have a huge roll? No. Was I an all American? No. Even a starter? Nope. However, I will tell you this, I was inside and a part of the program as a player. Even to this day I have managed to stay closer to the program than many. To answer your questions the answer is yes to both.

There is not one player that has played under Farley that hasn't had an opportunity to embrace the program and become a "Panther." If they have not, they are the ones to blame, not Farley. Even those that I know that have not, and do not see eye to eye with Farley understand his passion for UNI and have grown their own.

Is the program in a better place now than in 2001? No, 2001 it was in a great place, resurrected from the grave by none other than Mark Farley. Has it had its ups and downs since then? Yes, that is caused by expectations. Expectations that have been created by none other than Mark Farley. Without success in 2001, the expectation, then disappointment doesn't happen of 2002. The list goes on and on. We are a program with NFL players, not one, but several, facilities that rival many FBS programs, exposure, attendance numbers, national rankings, and most importantly expectations.

When we walk into a Big Eleven Stadium its not for a paycheck, its for a victory. I'm not talking about ISU, or an occasional pick up game against a K State program that has won a game in 3 years.

These are all in place because of Mark.

Do I wish things would change a bit, sure? Have I been critical? Sure. But this "he needs to go" stuff is stupid, all of your accusations are simply matters of opinion. An opinion that I would guess is slighted by a loved one on the team. Probably a linebacker seeing’s how that is the only position you criticize, and seem to know about. Best of luck to whoever your kid is, I hope he has half the experience being a panther that I did, only if you allow it of course. This isn’t high school dad. Get over it and get off the freaking message board.

You sir, are a great Panther fan! This sums up what I was thinking/wanting to say. I say it from a fans perspective, but I think some people forget how great it's been for a decade. 100 wins...close to 10 a year. What other programs have that level of success? UNI is in the top 5% of football programs.

[shinze]

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[QUOTE=msppanther;330551]Nobody on this board is an idiot nor should be subjected to name calling! It's absolutley right to disagree with one's posting or opinion but we should disagree respectfully. Most importantly, it's healthy to have vigorous discourse and maybe we can learn something from each ounblievablether's posting. All of us love and want the best for the PANTHERS.
GO PANTHERS!![/QUOTE

How old are we? Nine? Name Calling? Sorry ms ppanther in the real world his stuff happens and Johnny is going to have to just accept it.....Unbelievable....

[arealcat]

Re: Time for a Change

A few things... Used to be a Farley fan and have reasons that I'm not anymore and also lost a lot of respect for him which I also have reasons for. He has done a good job running the Panther program... some years better than others. He will get in your face to motivate and is extremely passionate, which is great for a head coach to be. However, he does not and should not be the D Coordinator and in no way should he ever be more involved in the offense. I hope that was a joke for whoever said that.

[lakesbison]

Re: Time for a Change

I hate the guy like most ndsu fans......sooo if your rivals hate him....he's probably the right guy.


And he gets tein cities recruits.

[Born-a-Panther]

Re: Time for a Change

I hate the guy like most ndsu fans......sooo if your rivals hate him....he's probably the right guy.


And he gets tein cities recruits.

He's the right guy.