Its a Panther State y'all...

[Panther'73]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

UNI kept IA. St at bay the 2nd half - that is significant. Plus offense kept the ball for more than 1 series to keep the clock running. Farley totally out-coached Rhodes and UNI players out-played ia. st. Be willing to give UNI credit....

[Trapped in California]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

1. They can't end it anytime, there are signed contracts for the next 10 years or so.

2. Banter back and forth on message boards will have no effect on what their athletic administration does.

3. We go out and get a different BCS game. The clones are paying us far below market for a top level FCS team. That's why they signed long term contracts, it's a bargain game for them.

Contracts are made to be broken. A negotiated buy out is always a possibility. Though, if Pollard did that now, it would look worse than any tantrum a certain MBB coach (the name we shall not speak) has ever thrown. He would be thoroughly roasted.

Plus the idea of giving $1 - $2 million to a team so that they would not play would not be looked favorably upon by many, if any other than a couple yahoos on CF.

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

1. They can't end it anytime, there are signed contracts for the next 10 years or so.

2. Banter back and forth on message boards will have no effect on what their athletic administration does.

3. We go out and get a different BCS game. The clones are paying us far below market for a top level FCS team. That's why they signed long term contracts, it's a bargain game for them.

Contracts are made to be broken. Dont kid yourself, if Rhoads walks into Pollards office and says he doesnt want to play UNI anymore, Pollard would write the check tomorrow.

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

Contracts are made to be broken. A negotiated buy out is always a possibility. Though, if Pollard did that now, it would look worse than any tantrum a certain MBB coach (the name we shall not speak) has ever thrown. He would be thoroughly roasted.

Plus the idea of giving $1 - $2 million to a team so that they would not play would not be looked favorably upon by many, if any other than a couple yahoos on CF.

No way would it be that high. UNI is starving for cash flow.

Big 12 could decide in the offseason to follow suite with the Big 10 and also listen to tv and not allow Big 12 teams to play FCS. At that point ISU has an out. I will be shocked if this series last that long.

[Panther'73]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

Contracts are made to be broken. Dont kid yourself, if Rhoads walks into Pollards office and says he doesnt want to play UNI anymore, Pollard would write the check tomorrow.

so Rhoads would start behaving like sissy Fran??

[Trapped in California]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

UNI is currently contracted for 6 more games @ ISU. At $350,000 a game (or more depending on share of gate), that's $2M banked.

Unless there is a specific buyout clause formula, UNI has no incentive to to take the money and look for other games.

[panther-state]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

How? Actually could have easily been ISU big had they not shot themselves in the foot inside the redzone twice by having to kick two field goals versus scoring touchdowns, hell both were inside the 10 yard line, and missed two field goals. UNI threatened and scored once in the second half due to a terrible punt that went out on the 35 yard line, other than that UNI did nothing in the second half.

Alright I'll bite. ISU did not look very threatening for a majority of this game, especially on the offensive side. There was maybe one legitimate scoring drive, the one where they scored their 2nd TD, for the Clones. I'm not completely taking away from their first TD but it was essentially a broken coverage. So there are 14 pts. The two missed FG's were 54 and 48 yards, not gimmes by any stretch and both were simply awful. I'm not convinced Netten would've hit either of those too. As for those other drives where ISU left points on the board, one was thanks to that poor fumble call where it looked like our running backs elbow was down (was it Williams? I think it was #8) and honestly the UNI defense stepped up and played big. If you think ISU's offense decided to go into "Inept Mode" on just those two possessions then you didn't watch the game very closely.

UNI had the biggest "shoot yourself in the foot" moment with DJ's fumble at the 1. Nothing else is even close to how big of a break that was for ISU. Sure they once again squandered their opportunity by failing to do anything against our D, but UNI, rather than being up 35-20 with only a minute or two on the clock, they have to prevent ISU from driving 80 yards or making another big play for a potential game tying score.

Anyway you look at it UNI made the biggest mistakes with the 2 turnovers at critical moments, and the coverage mishap on ISU's first TD. Unless we want to consider ISU getting beat physically on both sides of the balls a "mistake" I'm not sure how else you could've watched that game and not thought that UNI was closer to making that game a 2+ score game (they were literally just 1 yd away from doing this) than ISU. And don't give us the whole "well if this would've happened, or that would've happened" crap. Well if UNI squeezes the ball just a little tighter on 2 plays and a safety correctly identifies coverage on another, UNI could've walked out of Jack Trice with a 24 pt victory. See? You can always twist the "if's and but's".

[TH1974]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

No way would it be that high. UNI is starving for cash flow.

Big 12 could decide in the offseason to follow suite with the Big 10 and also listen to tv and not allow Big 12 teams to play FCS. At that point ISU has an out. I will be shocked if this series last that long.

Given the Big XII's performance against FCS teams over the weekend, I wouldn't be surprised.

[djb]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

How? Actually could have easily been ISU big had they not shot themselves in the foot inside the redzone twice by having to kick two field goals versus scoring touchdowns, hell both were inside the 10 yard line, and missed two field goals. UNI threatened and scored once in the second half due to a terrible punt that went out on the 35 yard line, other than that UNI did nothing in the second half.

Really? I remember an 80 yard drive in the 4th quarter that ground about 5 minutes off the clock. I remember a defense that dug in, covered and got sacks in the 4th quarter. Panthers controlled both lines of scrimmage for the entire game. DL made more plays in the 4th quarter speaking to preparation and conditioning - or did cyclones shoot themselves in the foot in every phase of the game? I don't think the clones are as bad as you guys think right now. I think Panthers are better than outsiders thought they could be. Better prepared, more motivated and stronger on both sides of the ball.

[Trapped in California]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

No way would it be that high. UNI is starving for cash flow.

Big 12 could decide in the offseason to follow suite with the Big 10 and also listen to tv and not allow Big 12 teams to play FCS. At that point ISU has an out. I will be shocked if this series last that long.

If this mandate came down, then ISu would have even less bargining position. The dollars paid would go up, not down. And ISU would get all the grief it deserves.

Take your beatin', and move on.

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

UNI played like this was their only game of the year, dont blame them it is. ISU played with a ho hum attitude, lost their starting center in the first quarter (all Big 12 guy), sat out their best corner and second best running back, lost Brun their best playmaker and TE in the second quarter to cramps, missed two field goals, had horrible play calling in the red zone (in there like 6 times I believe), made horrible decisions on some 4th and short plays that could have easily been converted, was pretty much able to run at will but continued to pass, and had a linebacker in there that couldnt tackle me, so ya this blew up Iowa States face.

[djb]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

Although it was important to UNI to win this game, it is not their biggest game of the year. NDSU (who beat last years big 12 champ Friday) is.

[Khan4Cats]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

UNI played like this was their only game of the year, dont blame them it is. ISU played with a ho hum attitude, lost their starting center in the first quarter (all Big 12 guy), sat out their best corner and second best running back, missed two field goals, had horrible play calling in the red zone (in there like 6 times I believe), made horrible decisions on some 4th and short plays that could have easily been converted, was pretty much able to run at will but continued to pass, and had a linebacker in there that couldnt tackle me, so ya this blew up Iowa States face.

That must be the same attitude that ISU takes for 2/3 of their Big XII games since they tend to lose those also and only truly get up for one or two games a year. Must be great to only worry about trying to beat one team a year, whether its Texas one year, Nebraska another, ooh Oklahoma State-let's focus on that one this year. Sorry, play to win each game or be thrilled just to get near .500 every year like you do.

[panther-state]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

So much "LOL". So much dumb. I'll leave most of that crying alone but I'm pretty sure ISU was in in the Redzone 3 times. Once where they score TD #2. The other two times were they had their 2 Netten FG's. Not sure how you got to 6 unless Rhoades decided to punt in the redzone 3 times. If someone finds the stats please post them.

Alright, one more. You should've said, Sam Richardson could run at will after his pocket collapsed, because your RB's didn't do a whole lot. White avg 4.9 yds per carry which is good but UNI had 3 guys rush for a better avg and DJ was at nearly 9 per rush. None of your RB's (all of whom now would start for UNI, right? ) ran for more than 10 yds on a single carry. None. Richardson was the only ISU running threat and that was a direct result of all the pressure we put on him and forced him to scramble for his life

[UNIDebo]

Re: Its a Panther State y'all...

How? Actually could have easily been ISU big had they not shot themselves in the foot inside the redzone twice by having to kick two field goals versus scoring touchdowns, hell both were inside the 10 yard line, and missed two field goals. UNI threatened and scored once in the second half due to a terrible punt that went out on the 35 yard line, other than that UNI did nothing in the second half.

Logic Vacuum engaged.