UNI vs NDSU

[Codytwo]

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Would the OP in Overland Park be willing to do a game watch for this? K State is starting at the same time.

In my past experience, the only time the OP in Overland Park pays any attention to UNI football is when we're playing Iowa or Iowa State, or when we're in the FCS Playoffs.

With that being said, it is possible that they may do a game watch for this, but since the Iowa game would probably overlap, it's highly unlikely.

Does anyone else have any information about the OP in Overland Park?

[DownGoesKansas]

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In my past experience, the only time the OP in Overland Park pays any attention to UNI football is when we're playing Iowa or Iowa State, or when we're in the FCS Playoffs.

With that being said, it is possible that they may do a game watch for this, but since the Iowa game would probably overlap, it's highly unlikely.

Does anyone else have any information about the OP in Overland Park?

I went to the OP in OP today. They said they would have the game on and that some guy had already set up a game watch.

So I will be crashing that Saturday.

[ubuntuCAT]

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Any injuries for the Panthers?

Bison had a starting D-lineman sit out for concussion symptoms, don't know if he'll be back for this game.

#2 QB Brion Carnes, and TE Sam Rohr were both injured in the first half and did not return in the McNeese State game. Haven't heard on severity. Sounded like Brion had possible concussion.

[northerniowadave]

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We need Carnes on the field to win this game. He adds the dimension that will keep the Bison defense honest. The Big Johnson and Sawyer can do something.

[Khan4Cats]

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I'm not going to discuss the game in a thread started by an opposing fan. I'll consider this the official thread.

I think we've played a tougher schedule, not by a whole lot, but tougher. This is a huge step up though for us.
Playing indoors in a hangar is not going to be as big a factor for us but adjusting to the noise will be. Two years ago, we were inside their ten early in the game and a false start pushed us back and we settle for a field goal.
We have to convert scoring chances into 6's instead of 3's.
Have to protect the football. We've done that well so far, but turnovers this week will cost us.
Likewise, we have to be opportunistic. I was worried at first when we couldn't turn the opening kick-off fumble into points against McNeese. We didn't capitalize on that one, but we did on later miscues.
Keep 'em guessing. Use the variety of weapons we have on offense to keep their defense honest and keep showing different defensive looks as we have early this year. They're too good to play a vanilla defense against.

[Trapped in California]

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3-4 defense has has historically given NDSU issues. See last time we ran the 3-4, 2010.

[UNI MadCat]

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I'm not going to discuss the game in a thread started by an opposing fan. I'll consider this the official thread.

I think we've played a tougher schedule, not by a whole lot, but tougher. This is a huge step up though for us.
Playing indoors in a hangar is not going to be as big a factor for us but adjusting to the noise will be. Two years ago, we were inside their ten early in the game and a false start pushed us back and we settle for a field goal.
We have to convert scoring chances into 6's instead of 3's.
Have to protect the football. We've done that well so far, but turnovers this week will cost us.
Likewise, we have to be opportunistic. I was worried at first when we couldn't turn the opening kick-off fumble into points against McNeese. We didn't capitalize on that one, but we did on later miscues.
Keep 'em guessing. Use the variety of weapons we have on offense to keep their defense honest and keep showing different defensive looks as we have early this year. They're too good to play a vanilla defense against.

Not sure how you can argue we've played a tougher schedule. If anything, I'd give them the edge. Playing @KSU and @SDSU sounds a lot tougher than @ISU and at home vs McNeese. The other games are a wash, unless you're giving us a few brownie points for playing in the mountains which has more to do with elements than opponent. Bottom line, they're as tested and ready as we are. We have no edge here.

This is one of those games where I hope we start on defense, force a punt and start winning the field position game. I shutter thinking about how loud it will get if we receive, start slow and have to punt deep in our own end.

[otter]

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I'm not going to discuss the game in a thread started by an opposing fan. I'll consider this the official thread.

I think we've played a tougher schedule, not by a whole lot, but tougher. This is a huge step up though for us.
Playing indoors in a hangar is not going to be as big a factor for us but adjusting to the noise will be. Two years ago, we were inside their ten early in the game and a false start pushed us back and we settle for a field goal.
We have to convert scoring chances into 6's instead of 3's.
Have to protect the football. We've done that well so far, but turnovers this week will cost us.
Likewise, we have to be opportunistic. I was worried at first when we couldn't turn the opening kick-off fumble into points against McNeese. We didn't capitalize on that one, but we did on later miscues.
Keep 'em guessing. Use the variety of weapons we have on offense to keep their defense honest and keep showing different defensive looks as we have early this year. They're too good to play a vanilla defense against.

Glad to know I wasn't the only one not wanting the official thread to be the one started by a Bison

[Khan4Cats]

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Not sure how you can argue we've played a tougher schedule. If anything, I'd give them the edge. Playing @KSU and @SDSU sounds a lot tougher than @ISU and at home vs McNeese. The other games are a wash, unless you're giving us a few brownie points for playing in the mountains which has more to do with elements than opponent. Bottom line, they're as tested and ready as we are. We have no edge here.

This is one of those games where I hope we start on defense, force a punt and start winning the field position game. I shutter thinking about how loud it will get if we receive, start slow and have to punt deep in our own end.

As I said, not by a whole lot, but tougher. They have played a D-II, we played Drake, slight edge to us. They played Delaware State at home, we went to Northern Colorado. On a neutral field, UNC beats Delaware State. We both beat Big XII teams, K-State is probably better than ISU, but we don't know for sure if and by how much, edge to NDSU.
That leaves McNeese State vs the Bunnies. McNeese destroyed a BcS school, SDSU got crushed by Nebraska. I think on each home field, it's probably 50-50, but given the familiarity of playing SDSU, I think NDSU had an 'easier' game to prep and play than UNI did. Again, not by much, but a little tougher.

[TommyT]

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The edge is to NDSU. Playing at home washes any previous game comparisons. UNI winning this game would be one of the biggest victories in school history IMO. If we do win this one, I fear a let down the week after. Gotta keep the team focused.

[BCPanther]

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FWIW, I don't fear a letdown if we win, and thats a BIG IF, we come home to a sold out Dome and Homecoming.

The key for Saturday is David Johnson, if we can effectively run the ball and mix in big play action plays we'll be successful.

This team is special, I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something there...

[Ted Johnson]

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There hasn't been much in the way of prognostication. I received this one in the mail and have been given full permision to pass it along.

Here is all you need to know:

Home field and Coaching will hand a close and hard fought game to The Bison.

What we have here is a very close game matching up the two best college football teams in Iowa, Kansas, South Dakota, Minnesota and Montana. Statistically these teams are outstanding and have proven themselves in both the FBS/BCS and the FCS.

UNI is looking a lot like Kansas State with Collin Klein, at least with regard to his offensive stats. Sawyer Kollmorgen is outstanding. He is responsible for 220 yes or so of offensive almost all of it passing. He will throw a couple TDs per game, he will throw 25 times or so and has yet to throw an INT.

Brock Jensen has similar stats. Not as much passing but a true passing/running threat, #16 runs the west coast, as often as not, like an option attack. This will help offset the great UNI pass rush. He will throw a couple TDs too, has thrown 3 INTs but has 4 rushing TDs and will carry effectively 5-7 times/game. He is a scoring threat on every play.

Both clubs have good running games. UNI relies on David Johnson and Tyvis Smith. NDSU rotates Sam Ojuri and John Crockett with Derrick Lang and Chase Morlock backing up. All 4 backs are among the best in the division but Lang and Morlock are too young to be widely known and play behind a couple of the nations top runners.

The Bison have a clear edge in time of possession and, overall, they fare slightly better against their opponents. When those facts are know the indicated score being shown on certain proprietary websites makes sense.

Both teams are good and I expect an average day for each. NDSU has a slight edge including home field. It's also believed The Bison will put the breaks on the Panther rushing game at least enough to win.

NDSU BISON 25 UNI Panthers 21. Yep a 4 point game. The analysis is simple: The Bison will offset the very effective UNI passing game with their own passing attack. No advantage there for either team. On the other hand I don't believe UNI is going to get what they expect from their running game. The BISON will roll on the ground as usual. UNI will be forced into a 1 dimensional offense relying almost entirely on the pass, which will, in the end, not be enough. Let 3rd down conversions be your guide and don't forget special teams when valadating "the edge" in your own mind. Here is the call:

NDSU BISON 25 UNI Panthers 21
Over/Under 50
Spread is 4 with The Bison covering.

[1988]

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There hasn't been much in the way of prognostication. I received this one in the mail and have been given full permision to pass it along.

Here is all you need to know:

I call BS Ted....

UNI 28 ndsu 18 (6 field goals)

[Ted Johnson]

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I have received a communication from the person who wrote the prognostication. They have this to say in reply:

There's nothing in the record for either team that would support 6 FGs. Opponents score on UNI 75% of the time from the redzone and half of them are TDs. On the other hand The Bison score 86% of the time when in the redzone and all but 1 were TDs.

It's far more likely NDSU puts up 45 to the UNI 20 something than NDSU kicks 6 FGs.

By the way, NDSUs opponents have only been in the redzone 3 times this season. 28 for UNI might be a stretch?

From what I read there I wouldn't follow your advice when calling this game.

[ndsubison1]

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As I said, not by a whole lot, but tougher. They have played a D-II, we played Drake, slight edge to us. They played Delaware State at home, we went to Northern Colorado. On a neutral field, UNC beats Delaware State. We both beat Big XII teams, K-State is probably better than ISU, but we don't know for sure if and by how much, edge to NDSU.
That leaves McNeese State vs the Bunnies. McNeese destroyed a BcS school, SDSU got crushed by Nebraska. I think on each home field, it's probably 50-50, but given the familiarity of playing SDSU, I think NDSU had an 'easier' game to prep and play than UNI did. Again, not by much, but a little tougher.

youre comparing south florida and nebraska. usf is one of the worst fbs teams so far this season