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  • #46
    Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

    Worst offensive play calling I've seen in a LONG time. Didn't think Carnes looked nearly as bad as the the play calling made him look. Horrible and I'm sick of putting up with it.

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    • #47
      Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

      if anyone finds video of that final play (well, not the kneeldown, but the one before that), I'd love to see it. I took off (in order to make it to the McLeod for volleyball senior recognition) when they called the timeout(s) with 24 seconds left with 4th-and-4 at midfield, figuring that they'd just punt. Then when I get into the McLeod, I see a replay of Johnson on a 48-yard run (too bad he couldn't punch it in). Was that on a fake punt?

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      • #48
        Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

        Carnes is not our answer if we are playing next week Sawyer needs the majority of the snaps

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        • #49
          Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

          Originally posted by achrist70 View Post
          Carnes is not our answer if we are playing next week Sawyer needs the majority of the snaps
          if we are playing next week, I suspect that you will everyone including Jake Farley fighting to get on the field. I would be absolutely shocked if Sawyer didn't play if playoffs are a chance.

          If somehow get matched with Butler, there is a 90%+ chance it would be a home game.

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          • #50
            Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

            Butler isn't inside the 400-mile radius, and thus wouldn't be a "bus game", so I don't know why they would match them with UNI, if the Panthers were to get in.

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            • #51
              Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

              Originally posted by JayJ79 View Post
              if anyone finds video of that final play (well, not the kneeldown, but the one before that), I'd love to see it. I took off (in order to make it to the McLeod for volleyball senior recognition) when they called the timeout(s) with 24 seconds left with 4th-and-4 at midfield, figuring that they'd just punt. Then when I get into the McLeod, I see a replay of Johnson on a 48-yard run (too bad he couldn't punch it in). Was that on a fake punt?
              It was DJ to the right side of the line. Big surprise, eh? Farley said on the postgame show that sometimes 'you just go win the game'. He said WIU was not going to score on our defense in the second half and he had the coaches shut down the offense after the interception that was returned for a touchdown. Complain all anyone wants, it was intentional. He also said if we do play again, we can't get into a shootout with anyone.

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              • #52
                Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

                Run&blade - couldn't agree more. Seems like coaching staff is content playing high school type offense, play calling included. Don't think they're capable of building a better program! They did fix defense, but offense has taken horrible turn for the worse. Defense out scored offense yesterday!

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                • #53
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                  Originally posted by UNI-FAN View Post
                  Defense out scored offense yesterday!
                  12 for the offense (2 David Johnson TDs), 12 for the defense (2 Ray Mitchell pick-6's), and 4 for special teams (XP kicks)

                  unless you were including WIU's points too. (6 for their defense, 7 for their special teams)

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                  • #54
                    Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

                    Originally posted by UNI-FAN View Post
                    Run&blade - couldn't agree more. Seems like coaching staff is content playing high school type offense, play calling included. Don't think they're capable of building a better program! They did fix defense, but offense has taken horrible turn for the worse. Defense out scored offense yesterday!
                    Must have overlooked the comment made by Farley... the took the foot off the gas pedal about half time. He knew the defense would hold WIU, and felt no reason to run up the score.

                    You can argue about that decision. The lack of production by the team during the second half was intentional.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

                      Originally posted by Cat80 View Post
                      It was DJ to the right side of the line. Big surprise, eh? Farley said on the postgame show that sometimes 'you just go win the game'. He said WIU was not going to score on our defense in the second half and he had the coaches shut down the offense after the interception that was returned for a touchdown. Complain all anyone wants, it was intentional. He also said if we do play again, we can't get into a shootout with anyone.
                      This tells me a couple things "if" fully accurate and not just some kind of coach speak: First, it is "weird" to "shut down" your offense in the last game of the year anyway, but especially when you are fighting for a slim chance at a playoff berth. Make a statement, both to the committee and to your team on the off chance that you do get a 2nd chance and sneak into the playoffs. Second thing it REALLY tells me "if" true is that Farley has ZERO confidence in our offense to win a game...ZERO! And THAT is a HUGE problem that 100% needs to be fixed going into next season or I will

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                      • #56
                        Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

                        Originally posted by FOTY View Post
                        Must have overlooked the comment made by Farley... the took the foot off the gas pedal about half time. He knew the defense would hold WIU, and felt no reason to run up the score.

                        You can argue about that decision. The lack of production by the team during the second half was intentional.
                        I call BS on this. No way a coach puts the team in neutral for the second half of a game unless you are up 50 - 0. Even then you put in your second and third team and still play football. This is either a horrible statement about our coaching philosophy in general (which I don't believe) or a cover up by our head coach for the most inept offensive system I have seen in a long time.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

                          Originally posted by Panther-Sheik View Post
                          THAT is a HUGE problem that 100% needs to be fixed going into next season or I will
                          Please, do tell us how you will fix it?

                          Originally posted by Panther-Sheik View Post
                          I call BS on this. No way a coach puts the team in neutral for the second half of a game unless you are up 50 - 0. Even then you put in your second and third team and still play football. This is either a horrible statement about our coaching philosophy in general (which I don't believe) or a cover up by our head coach for the most inept offensive system I have seen in a long time.
                          Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I tend to believe our coach as our offensive sceme changed from first half to second half. The play calling was very conservative, more just to keep the game going that trying to run up the score.

                          Just a few questions...
                          1. Where you at the game?
                          2. Did you listen to the postgame comments from the coach to actually hear what Farley had to say?
                          3. Did you really need to post back to back posts to state your disagreement?
                          4. I'm really excited to hear how you are going to "fix" our "inept offensive system".

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                          • #58
                            Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

                            Originally posted by FOTY View Post
                            Please, do tell us how you will fix it?

                            Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I tend to believe our coach as our offensive sceme changed from first half to second half. The play calling was very conservative, more just to keep the game going that trying to run up the score.

                            Just a few questions...
                            1. Where you at the game?
                            2. Did you listen to the postgame comments from the coach to actually hear what Farley had to say?
                            3. Did you really need to post back to back posts to state your disagreement?
                            4. I'm really excited to hear how you are going to "fix" our "inept offensive system".
                            1. I'm at EVERY game
                            2. I did not listen to the post game and I don't need a post game to know what I saw on the field. It was bad football. "IF" Farley said he put the team in neutral and he actually believes his own statement, then I have a HUGE problem with that philosophy taking us anywhere but where we are. For the record, I don't believe Farley believes his own statement and at best was covering up for bad offense, and at worst has NO confidence in our offense and knew the only way we lose is by our bad offense giving the game away. If you don't think that is a problem, then I don't know what to tell you.
                            3. I posted one comment while you were posting your "BS" comment (in my opinion)
                            4. You don't know how to fix an inept offensive system? That ain't rocket surgery. I'm never for anyone losing their job. In a perfect world everyone would perform at or above level and we would all enjoy hugs and juice boxes every day. That's not how it works, though, and sometimes you have to make tough decisions.
                            5. I'll add one for you...Why is bad offense acceptable for any "excuse", reason or circumstance to you? Farley could have said that they started randomly drawing the plays in the dust and it would not make me feel any better about bad offense. In fact, it would make me feel much worse.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

                              Originally posted by Panther-Sheik View Post
                              I call BS on this. No way a coach puts the team in neutral for the second half of a game unless you are up 50 - 0. Even then you put in your second and third team and still play football. This is either a horrible statement about our coaching philosophy in general (which I don't believe) or a cover up by our head coach for the most inept offensive system I have seen in a long time.
                              our second and third teams have been playing football ever since the NDSU game.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Western Illinois--Senior Day

                                Originally posted by Cat80 View Post
                                It was DJ to the right side of the line. Big surprise, eh? Farley said on the postgame show that sometimes 'you just go win the game'. He said WIU was not going to score on our defense in the second half and he had the coaches shut down the offense after the interception that was returned for a touchdown. Complain all anyone wants, it was intentional. He also said if we do play again, we can't get into a shootout with anyone.
                                If the quote is accurate, and I have no reason to believe it is not, it explains so many things that have happened in the past decade.

                                Farley's natural tendency appears to be play to not lose. That makes me shake my head. Drop the hammer unless you are up 6 scores. It puts the defense in an awful position of being on the field, dead tired for 35-40 minutes a game. No wonder run out of steam in the playoffs.

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