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  • It's OK to be angry

    I just wanted to clear the air a bit here while I had 5 minutes. After the battles on here with Ban for the past couple days and then listening to OPR yesterday, with Gary talking about supporting the team, liking the coaches and asking people to understand that they are trying as hard as they can, I got to thinking that there is really a disconnect or misunderstanding going on here.

    There seems to be the opinion that if you complain about our coaches or direction of a program that you are being disloyal, jumping ship, a bandwagon fan etc. I'm here to say that I see it as exactly the opposite. It is OK to be angry! It is OK to expect and even demand more! In fact, I would argue that our administration and our die-hard fans should be happy that there is anger and discontent among the fan base. We should be happy that there is strong critiquing of where we are right now and a clamoring for change to right the ship. It isn't a sign of disloyalty but a sign of true passion for UNI. It's a sign that we have been here and we intend to be here and we want to see it improve.

    The "fans" that don't care or simply dismiss where UNI is right now as 'just the way it goes' are in my opinion the ones most easily swayed to follow another state school or jump ship. I don't put either Ban or Gary into that category, by the way. Those that show apathy will find an easier reason to stop buying season tickets or supporting UNI than those who show anger, outrage and even demand something change / improve. An apathetic fan base is a shrinking fan base (see In. St., Bradley, Mo St.). I want passion. Passion for the good and also passion for the bad.

    I for one am pissed, but it certainly doesn't mean I have stopped loving my Panthers, have given up on them or will jump ship to some other school or team. I haven't stopped supporting the young men or women out there pouring the hearts and souls into their sport. I haven't stopped hoping that somehow our coaches will turn it around and become all-world caliber coaches. I want and hope for that every single season and every game of every season.

    But I also know that no one person is or should ever be above reproach and certainly no individual is above the program or institution. If there are changes that need to be made for the benefit of the program or UNI as a whole then it shouldn't be questioned whether said person is a "good guy", is "doing the best they can" or "wants to win more than anyone". All of those are most likely true. But I consider myself to be a pretty good guy, and I can do the best I can and I can want to win / succeed more than anyone but it doesn't mean I am the right or best person for every job or situation. Saying so or admitting that doesn't make me disloyal to myself, it is just reality. I'm not being disloyal, I'm being extremely loyal to my school and my program by demanding better for them no matter what individual that might affect. Are Farley, Jake, Schwab, Tanya, Bobbie, Jacobs or the other coaches disloyal when they bench a certain player for lack of performance or are they calling it out and making the necessary changes for the benefit of the program as a whole (regardless of how good a guy / gal, how bad they want to win or how hard that player is trying). Why as fans are we called disloyal when we would like nothing but the same, even if it involves a coach?

    For all this I say, it is OK to be angry Panther fans. In fact, be angry, be disappointed, expect more. Just don't become apathetic and don't give up the passion. In fact, support more and be there through thick and thin. The winning feels so much better when you have been there during the tough times.

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    Very interesting perspective!

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    • #3
      Re: It's OK to be angry

      And to complete the thought, I would say that the day you find no one posting on PN or calling OPR during a football season like this is the day that UNI is officially finished.

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      • #4
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        Great post. And I think most on here agree with you. It's those few who say they aren't going to buy any more tickets or are giving away tickets to NDSU fans that I have a problem with. If we can survive the Sam Weaver years and the Dome roof leaking on top of the basketball court, we can survive this.
        "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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        • #5
          Re: It's OK to be angry

          Well put, Panther-Sheik.

          I can't disagree with anything that you wrote. My issue has ALWAYS been how "fans" no longer show support by constantly criticizing, but especially by not putting their butts in the seats to support the team and coaches during the down times.

          Frustration is ok, but to just not "like the team any longer" because things aren't going our way, or to no longer attend events, is the ultimate show of a fair weather "fan," and everything that we should loathe about sports "fans."

          But, yes, as a truce of sorts, good, well thought post.

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          • #6
            Re: It's OK to be angry

            Because it sure helps the program when people just stop filling the stands and pull all their financial support. It would be awesome to bring potential recruits to an empty Dome...
            "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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            • #7
              Re: It's OK to be angry

              I agree....As a true fan we should be upset....it is hard to watch a team with this ki d of talent struggle....i too listened to OPR yesterday and did not agree with Gary at all when he went on his rant.....i don't disagree that the coaches want to win...or that they did not forget how to coach.....He then talked about no one was talking about their coaching when we beat northern Colorado or Tennessee tech....of course not....i could have coached our team to wins in both of those games....There was such a huge gap in talent coaching g didn't matter......but when coaching does matter is when it seems we get beat.....coincidence. ..i think not...we can't win close games anymore and that usually comes down to coaching ....what other team have you seen in a close game call timeout on 4th down only to come out and punt....why??? So you are going to give the other team the ball but waste a timeout....makes no sense....we have what many of us think is the best running back in UNI history and he is hardly seeing the ball.......we are losing our swagger as a program and something needs to be done....no one fears playing us anymore...The dome scares no one....i truly believe opposing coaches know they can out coach our staff if the game is close...it has been proven......i have been a loyal fan for many years and will continue to be....but something needs to change...Our record in close games proves it and the talent we are wasting is hard to watch

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              • #8
                Re: It's OK to be angry

                You have to take Gary with a grain of salt.

                His survival and day to day living literally depends on having access to coaches and other resources he needs in the athletic department. He won't ever be in a spot where he can call any coaches out and maintain a relationship with them to get them on his show and not make things horrible on his broadcasts.

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                • #9
                  Re: It's OK to be angry

                  Exactly, BC. It's true for anyone who works closely with a university/sports team. We can't expect him not to toe the company line.

                  Great post, Sheik. I feel just like you; the moment we stop getting upset when things are unsatisfactory and let apathy set in is the moment this program dies, particularly in the financial situation we're in. People are mad because they CARE about the program and want them to do well. Do some people bluster and overreact? Sure. But let them have their frustration; if they're a true fan, they'll be back. I dearly love my Panthers and always will, regardless of record - I haven't continued to follow them since I graduated nearly 20 years ago just because they were winning all the time (God knows). But I still want what's best for the program as a whole, and will speak up when I think a change is necessary based on a pattern of unsatisfactory performance. I think it's only fair to give me the best bang for my buck when I buy a ticket for 4 family members, gas to Cedar Falls, dinner, and concessions at the game. That ain't cheap, so a good product to make those trips to Cedar Falls as much fun as possible is a necessity. I'm proud to be part of such a passionate fanbase that cares enough that they stand up and say when they're not happy after a period of underachieving.

                  Rant over...(sorry)
                  Give us a yell, HO! The purple and the gold
                  Victory for U-N-I!

                  Find out what the other team wants to do, then take it away from them.
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                  • #10
                    So, BAP, you have a problem with those long time PSC volunteer, season ticket holders like myself that are dissapointed in the season and would rather take my dog and kids pheasant hunting than watch the Panthers self destruct again? I am the type of fan you don't want to lose. I am beyond passionate. For years I have gone to every home game and I am LOUD. Unfortunately, most of the fans around me would prefer to golf clap. I invest myself emotionally and financially in UNI sports. When your investment under performs you have a right to be upset. Just like you have the right to criticize anyone and everyone that admits something needs changed and everything isn't perfect. I love your enthusiasm and have the sincerest respect for what your family has done for UNI sports but calling people out for being dissapointed isn't cool. You aren't a better fan simply because you choose to be naively optimistic. We all cope in different ways. I feel like I am part of the problem if I take your approach that "we just need to ride this out." I think the fans need to make a statement. My two cents.

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                    • #11
                      Re: It's OK to be angry

                      Originally posted by ProwlingPanther View Post
                      So, BAP, you have a problem with those long time PSC volunteer, season ticket holders like myself that are dissapointed in the season and would rather take my dog and kids pheasant hunting than watch the Panthers self destruct again? I am the type of fan you don't want to lose. I am beyond passionate. For years I have gone to every home game and I am LOUD. Unfortunately, most of the fans around me would prefer to golf clap. I invest myself emotionally and financially in UNI sports. When your investment under performs you have a right to be upset. Just like you have the right to criticize anyone and everyone that admits something needs changed and everything isn't perfect. I love your enthusiasm and have the sincerest respect for what your family has done for UNI sports but calling people out for being dissapointed isn't cool. You aren't a better fan simply because you choose to be naively optimistic. We all cope in different ways. I feel like I am part of the problem if I take your approach that "we just need to ride this out." I think the fans need to make a statement. My two cents.
                      Yikes. Little bit of an over-reaction. I never said I was a better fan than you. I never said you're wrong to be disappointed. In actuality I completely agreed with the original post of this thread that said people have THE RIGHT to be mad. I'm one of those people. I was furious Saturday night and incredibly grumpy all day on Sunday until I chose to move on and take my kids to the park and get over it. I'm married to a hunter. Go hunting. Great! I fully support it. But do you really need to give your tickets away to a rival for free so they can invade our home even more? And I never ONCE said we need to "ride this out." Since you have never talked to me about this issue privately (not on a public forum where everyone knows who I am and who my family is), you have no right to judge how I feel about the whole issue. I will support the Panthers until the day I die. Yet I am just as frustrated as you are.
                      "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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                      • #12
                        Please show me where I said I was giving my tickets away for free to the competition. Extremely irritated, I made a post saying I would sell them to one of the trolls that frequent our boards. Figured there was more demand there. I also said that I was, and still am jealous of their program. NDSU fans would not tolerate the last three seasons of UNI football if they were in our shoes. They have a culture of winning and if you have been inside their stadium, the place is insane with passion, unfortunately for them, most of those passionate fans are total jerks. I gave you props for your enthusiasm and your family's undying support for the Panthers. Where did I judge you? Also, you freely discuss who you are and who your family is on these boards, that is your choice to do so, not mine. Chill on the calling out people who dont share your same optimism. That is all I am saying. "Ride this out" was wrong my bad. You said, "we can survive this" I want to thrive not survive. I sincerely do not wish hard feelings. Much gets lost in translation on message boards. I wish you and your family all the best. God Bless.
                        Last edited by ProwlingPanther; 10-21-2014, 05:40 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: It's OK to be angry

                          At the end of the day, although you got the facts a little wrong, I can't expect to post something like I did and not get called out for it. I was(still am) frustrated but I shouldn't be surprised by the response. You ask for it when you make those posts. My bad for that.

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                          • #14
                            Re: It's OK to be angry

                            Originally posted by ProwlingPanther View Post
                            At the end of the day, although you got the facts a little wrong, I can't expect to post something like I did and not get called out for it. I was(still am) frustrated but I shouldn't be surprised by the response. You ask for it when you make those posts. My bad for that.
                            And if I ever come across as judgemental then I apologize. Let's call it good. In the end, we all want the same thing.
                            "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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                            • #15
                              Re: It's OK to be angry

                              Group hug!
                              Give us a yell, HO! The purple and the gold
                              Victory for U-N-I!

                              Find out what the other team wants to do, then take it away from them.
                              - George Halas

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