UNI/SDSU game

[Blue42]

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It's pretty amazing that Coach Stig can build a Ferrari of an offense...in Brookings, South Dakota.

And here we sit with a program with 10x the history and we seem to have no idea who we want to be.

Time to pick a scheme that's capable of winning against top teams...commit to it...recruit for it...cultivate it thru each spring and fall camp...and get this thing back to being a contender.

Stop asking your kids to switch between multiple schemes mid-year, to switch positions mid-season or to reinvent themselves as a unit on the fly. Let them master an offensive scheme that can win. That's what we saw from SDSU last night.

[lakesbison]

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Ferrari? 2 kids Jake & Tarynn that was over looked by ndsu uni and just happened to blossom after senior year of hs . and the Dallas kid.

[achrist70]

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The biggest thing I noticed yesterday was just how much bigger SDSU was across the board compared to us. They were huge up front but could also move. I don't think I can remember a bigger set of receivers at the FCS level and their secondary was just as big. The worst part about this is that SDSU is taking so many kids out of the state of Iowa, until we start winning this battle we will continue to fall further and further behind.

[Panthers to the Bone]

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While I agree that there are some legitimate concerns about losing some Iowa (and Minnesota) kids to SDSU, keep in mind one thing. UNI has a guy like David Johnson performing at a very high level and I would assume will be around some in the Summer. That has to be very attractive to prospective recruits...something SDSU doesn't have. The issue is that window of attractiveness could close quickly. You need to capitalize on that very quickly, b/c we know the days of RB's in the NFL are numbered, and we don't know how long DJ will keep this up.

The program existed at a high level before DJ and I believe it will again also. However, some of the advantages UNI used to have are now par for the course with SDSU/NDSU and we need to step up the game quickly.

[06panther10]

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Recruiting is fine, its not at all the issue. In fact, recruiting is great. We continue to have some of the best talent in the country.

We are getting out coached and out executed. I don't know how anyone could dispute that.

[Panthers to the Bone]

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Recruiting is fine, its not at all the issue. In fact, recruiting is great. We continue to have some of the best talent in the country.

We are getting out coached and out executed. I don't know how anyone could dispute that.

I was referring specifically to the previous post(s) with my comment...so recruiting specifically.

I don't disagree with what you are saying though either. I'm not a football guru though.

[Born-a-Panther]

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Recruiting is fine, its not at all the issue. In fact, recruiting is great. We continue to have some of the best talent in the country.

We are getting out coached and out executed. I don't know how anyone could dispute that.

This is not true. We are having a heck of a time recruiting linemen because we can't afford to give them full rides like they get elsewhere. We also can't expand our recruiting map as far anymore because of... money. And the nearby states we used to recruit from... now go to the Dakotas. Things have changed, and we have got to figure out a way to change with them.

Bailey not getting recognized but then heading out as a captain is mind boggling to me.

[havok58]

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When the rest of the league catches up to and passes UNI, in the end it's not about losing recruits to the other schools, its about the coaching staff that has seen elements of the game pass them by and don't make adjustments for that.

[havok58]

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I don't doubt that the opportunity to play for a perennial national champion like NDSU is very appealing to potential recruits, but they all can't be starters there. And I have to believe a lot of the other schools are facing the same issues that UNI faces when it comes to finances like offering full rides.

But do the recruits talk to each other about UNI? They have seen someone like David Johnson get underused in some games. They haven't seen a true passing offense, so why would some of the better QBs and WRs come here? A lot of that is on the coaching staff, and if a recruit doesn't like what he sees they go elsewhere. Hopefully the last half of the season will impress on some of the recruits to come here. And hopefully Farley doesn't regress next season to a dual-threat transfer QB that isn't accurate when passing the ball.

[06panther10]

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This is not true. We are having a heck of a time recruiting linemen because we can't afford to give them full rides like they get elsewhere. We also can't expand our recruiting map as far anymore because of... money. And the nearby states we used to recruit from... now go to the Dakotas. Things have changed, and we have got to figure out a way to change with them.

Bailey not getting recognized but then heading out as a captain is mind boggling to me.

I'm sorry, but I just do not believe this to be true. Money has ALWAYS been a huge obstacle, and always will at UNI. Thats not new. Mark Farley is one of the single highest paid coaches in the entire country, I don't want to hear about how money is the reason for all these losses we are taking.

The talent is there. I dont know how you could watch the games and disagree with that. I was looking at our 2014 roster the other day because I was curious, and I counted 10-12 guys that were or will be in NFL camps or on NFL rosters. Thats astounding for a FCS team. We lost 5 games that year.

We need to stop worrying about what others are doing and worry more ablut ourselves. Other teams are going to be good, and thats fine. Our problems are self inflicted.

[Born-a-Panther]

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I'm sorry, but I just do not believe this to be true. Money has ALWAYS been a huge obstacle, and always will at UNI. Thats not new. Mark Farley is one of the single highest paid coaches in the entire country, I don't want to hear about how money is the reason for all these losses we are taking.

The talent is there. I dont know how you could watch the games and disagree with that. I was looking at our 2014 roster the other day because I was curious, and I counted 10-12 guys that were or will be in NFL camps or on NFL rosters. Thats astounding for a FCS team. We lost 5 games that year.

We need to stop worrying ablut what others are doing and worry more ablut ourselves. Other teams are going to be good, and thats fine. Our problems are self inflicted.

I can promise you that the football budget is NOT what it was five or six years ago. Is that the only problem? No. But it is a problem and it has been happening at the same time that we've watched the program decline.

[06panther10]

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I can promise you that the football budget is NOT what it was five or six years ago. Is that the only problem? No. But it is a problem and it has been happening at the same time that we've watched the program decline.

Yes, and its the same thing that everybody else is dealing with. This isn't unique to UNI. I bet Coach Farley makes 3X what SDSU pays their coach, and they wiped the field with us yesterday.

[vbfan19]

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Recruiting is fine, its not at all the issue. In fact, recruiting is great. We continue to have some of the best talent in the country.

We are getting out coached and out executed. I don't know how anyone could dispute that.

I keep hearing that, but I'm not sure I believe it.
coaching and execution is certainly a problem, but recruiting has taken a hit (partially due to increased competition in UNI's prime recruiting footprint from the rise of the Dakota schools), and development has taken a hit.

The biggest need for improvement is at the o-line. The big ole farmboys are getting picked up by other schools, and the departure of Rick Nelson has had a huge effect.

[Born-a-Panther]

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The biggest need for improvement is at the o-line. The big ole farmboys are getting picked up by other schools, and the departure of Rick Nelson has had a huge effect.

Yup. Exactly. The line is where we are hurting the most when it comes to recruiting. It is a major issue right now.

[in_the_stands]

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The biggest thing I noticed yesterday was just how much bigger SDSU was across the board compared to us. They were huge up front but could also move. I don't think I can remember a bigger set of receivers at the FCS level and their secondary was just as big. The worst part about this is that SDSU is taking so many kids out of the state of Iowa, until we start winning this battle we will continue to fall further and further behind.

I was thinking the same thing, and thought the same thing while watching SDSU at NDSU, and while watching SDSU at ISURed. For a while I was wondering if wearing white was making them look bigger.