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When it came down to the end,I was worried because I knew about you guys down in the final minutes.Our DEs saved us last night.You guys have to be among the favorites next year.
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AppJack... we look forward to seeing you in the playoffs next year.Comment
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Did anyone finally flatten that ASU kid with the shoulderpads that kept plowing his way through the UNI tailgate section in the afternoon? (sorry if this was covered in other threads. I have alot of catching up to do)Comment
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I didn't hear.Some UNI students were walking through the App tailgate and some of our finer students threw beer all over them.Some of our fans definitely made asses out of themselves.Comment
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In reference to the fan who cutted the turf. He was arrested by local police and escorted by the UNI Lockeroom after the game by the parents and some fans. As I was by the lockeroom and even a UNI fan was clapping and cheering when he was escorted by us. They even had the evidence with them and it was nice piece of the turf. Which I thought was nice for us to see considering how they treated us UNI fans. I and Cincy were even treated badly at our hotel as well.GO NORTHERN IOWA PANTHERS![SIZE="6"][/SIZE]Comment
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I disagree about it being a minority of their fans. From my experience, it was a MAJORITY! BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE GAME the ASU fans were generally awful. The minority were the good ones based on the fans I met. The educated among the ASU fans seemed to be fairly even-minded throughout the weekend. The others, which were clearly the majority, were the complete opposite. I've never been called to fight by a toothless 40something simply for walking through the parking lot. I've never been called a faggot by a 4th grader who has yet to see a barber or dentist in his life. In general, these people were straight out of "Deliverance"!! A little trash talking is one thing, but these folks were classless idiots. As a note, I would have had the EXACT same feelings about this team's fans had we won the game by 50 points! It was flat out disgusting.Originally posted by UNIAlum95
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Don't know about shoulder pads. They definitely had the whole "Deliverance" theme covered by their fan base last night though...Originally posted by JayJ79
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I was there last night, and I wholeheartedly agree that far too many of their fans were classless...I was cheering on the UNI side of the field and there were some Appy students behind me talking about pushing me, calling me a faggot, etc.
However, rather than just attacking Appy's tasteless antics, I believe this provides us UNI students with the opportunity to think about our conduct at games as well. When we go to any sporting event, we represent this university just as much as the players on the field. There definately have been times in my college career when I have forgotten that. Let's use last night as motivation to maintain our class and make opposing teams walk away from us knowing that UNI produces great athletes AND great students.Comment
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Some of them very well could have been raised in a hog lot from what I saw... On another note, I have NEVER seen the finger or heard as many obscene terms used by fans of one school than I did last night. And that includes schools at any level; not just I-AA football! Maybe the whole fingering thing was less a representation of "F--- You!" and more a count of how many combined teeth were in the stands on the ASU side?!?!Originally posted by Blue42
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I'm going to try to throw in my 2 cents (which will probably be more like 30 cents after all of this). I've mentioned this before, but I've been a season ticket holder for the University of Wisconsin and I go to many away games. I've been called more names and had more odd stuff happen to me than you can imagine (f-word millions of times, bags of urine thrown, threatened to be arrested by cops mentioning that it was b/c I was wearing red, and more). But I called my parents after the game and said I've never seen anything like what went on with the App & UNI fans last night... well, really starting at like noon. I will disagree that the "majority" of their fans were jerks, I'm sorry but this is just not true. They had 12-13,000 fans there, and 6-7K weren't rude. But I will say that % that this minority made up was much higher than at any other game I've been to in any sporting event. It really was unbelievable.
I can understand the booing when you see an "enemy" fan. I can understand a few "UNI sucks" taunts every once in awhile among the "college-age" fans, but there was a lot of people acting over the top. The idiots that went thru the main UNI section of tailgaters were asking for trouble.
To answer some questions:
Did Appy fans that ran thru the UNI tailgate get beer spilled on them? Yes. Multiple times. It was sad and I was disappointed in the UNI fans that did it but I'm sorry, you ran into our section to intentionally start something. You are in a section with 100s of students who've been drinking for upwards of 8 hours already... I mean, its not a good combonation.
Dude with the shoulder pads -- LAYED OUT. Again, not something to be proud of necessarily regarding UNI fans but again, this dude was looking for trouble. I myself will admit to kicking him. I was standing by my car chatting and all of a sudden I see him out of the corner of my eye running straight towards me. I dont know if he planned on plowing me over, I thought he did. I got out of the way literally at the last second and just kind of did a reactionary "leg whip" at him b/c I was startled and freaked out. I barely touched him though. However, I did see him get taken down big time.
Pink Pig (pig, right?) guy and his buddy will think twice before acting like that again. After the game they made the unfortunate mistake of running thru the UNI tailgaters and trying to pick fights. They were both pushed and shoved to the ground and Pig's buddy was beaten pretty badly. If he wasn't injured I'd be real surprised. It wasn't any of my friends, but it was pretty close to us. The friend dude hit the ground and almost skid along the cement he was shoved down so hard.
The App students on the field were disgusting and an embarrassment to the school. I also heard many reports from my friends who were in the first couple of rows that many App players were seen taunting. Multiple accounts of pretending to wipe a flag on their rear in our direction, etc. I would hope that it was only a handful or less doing this and that the coaches did/will reprimand these morons much like Farley did in NH.
I talked to the aforementioned UNI fan that someone in this thread mentioned who jumped the wall and decked an Appy fan on the field. Much as you said, I think he was pretty disappointed in himself for doing it but it sounded like the gestures and verbal abuse were pretty tough to take. I'm honestly suprised only one of our fans reacted violently in that instance.
We stayed for about 2 hours in the parking lot after the game and I'd say it was 30/20/50. 30 percent were fans acting like complete jerks to us - we took a ton of taunting and had a ton of people come right up to our faces yelling, and looking for fights. Why you would do that to anyone is beyond me but why you would do that to us when we were with two former players is asking for a death wish. I'd say 20 percent of the fans were very friendly, coming up to say great game or just to shake our hands. Many of them actually apologized to us for the actions of their "vocal" minority. That made us feel much better in the end. The other 50 were just happy fans that totally ignored us which is what I wished there was more of. You won a national championship, enjoy it on your own!! Why taunt others when you have enough of your own fans to celebrate with and be totally oblivious to us?
At the bar we saw much of that. We went to the hotel bar at the Rivergate and it was a small place - maybe holding 40-50 people. They were all Appy fans, of course. I think a couple times some UNI fans straggled in and out but it was just the 4 of us most of the night. Truthfully every one of those fans save one was not only nice but went out of their way to be pleasent, share stories with us, shake our hands and even buy us beer. One dude was asking for a fight in the beginning and, being pretty riled up from the other situations and a not so pleasent walk from the stadium to the hotel, I was very willing to oblige at this point. I had had enough and, frankly, I'm a pretty big dude and I have some big boys as buddies so I wasn't worried. However, his friends weren't going to let him keep it up and cooler heads prevailed. Again though, I think the other 99% of the fans in that bar were great. It was a good end to a night that had become sour after the loss and grew more right at first after the game.
In all, I have no ill will towards the Appy fans that went out of their way to be friendly, that was great.
I hope some of them grow up but, folks, lets not kid ourselves, there was a fair share of UNI fans that had some growing up to do too. I said this a couple of weeks ago after the UNH game, you will find this exact same thread to some extent on every message board of every team in the country the week after they were the "visitors" (I realize we werent in this case but we definitely were outnumbered)... its an unfortunate reality of big time sports.Comment
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re: madcat's post
shoulderpad guy: while it isn't something to be proud of, it needed to happen. he was intentionally running at people. didn't see the pig guy, but hey, if you're going into a situation looking for a fight, you're going to find one
rivergate bar: is that the one with days inn, just past the marriot or a different rivergate? I had dinner there after the game (was quite tasty), and sat next to a few friendly ASU fans as well as a few other UNI fans. The discussion centered around mutual respect for each others football teams, and it was great (not as great as if we had been able to hold onto the lead... but still. hehe)Comment
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UNI MadCat, thanks for the info. I didn't realize things got that ugly in the tailgate section after the game. After standing down front in the midst of the taunting, I was expecting a rough scene on the way back to the hotel. But it was surprisingly quiet. We walked right down Carter Street but didn't come across many Appy fans at all. I told my brother as we walked out that this could get ugly before we get back to the hotel.
The story of the guy in shoulder pads charging people is unbelievable. That guys lucky he didn't spend the night in the hospital.
We went out downtown for a while later on but there were surprisingly few Appy fans down there, at least in the bars we were in.Winning is more fun than losing.Comment
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When you talk to this guy again, tell him not to be too hard on himself. The fan that he laid out had come right up to the wall and was way over the top. I don't think anyone who was standing there blames the UNI guy at all for what he did. There was a guy in a military uniform standing there and as they Appy guy got laid out, he rolled back into the legs of the soldier. Had that guy not been there it probably would have deteriorated in a hurry from there.Originally posted by UNI MadCatWinning is more fun than losing.Comment
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Yeah, that's what we said to him. I feel like it would have been tough for me to hold back. It's just amazing to me because if we had won I couldn't have given a crap about Appy. If I came across them I would have shook hands if they were willing but I would be there to celebrate OUR NC and wouldn't waste my time with the taunting. But, I'm also not 21 anymore, who knows if I would have been a little different.Originally posted by Blue42
21 years old + testosterone + heavy drinking + heavy emotions = high potential for fights.Comment
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Hey Jay,Originally posted by JayJ79
I think we saw you at the tail end of your meal. Were you sitting right by the door? Or were you in the actual restaurant part? (I had had a few "sodas" by then so if we introduced ourselves, I may have forgotten). Again, we saw much of the same thing you did. The only annoying thing was the "ASU, ASU, ASU" chants every 1/2 hour or so... but that's just b/c I was jealous. I guarantee it would have been hard to stop me from chanting "UNI" if the result was reversed.
SIDENOTE - I loved staying at a hotel with a 24-hour diner!! The food wasn't spetacular but it was pretty darn good. Especially the nachos at 4:30 a.m.!!!Comment
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