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  • Gateway Gets BCS Money?

    Does the GFC really get BCS money?
    How BCS revenue sharing worked: AQ vs non-AQ payouts, the 2008-09 figures, why the split sparked a fairness fight, and how CFP money changed the math.
    The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

  • #2
    I believe all conferences get some money, which is then distributed by the league.

    You could call it 'hush' money...as in, hush up and don't cry about there really being 3 Division-1 football classifications.

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    • #3
      i didn't know about this. hey, its a small piece of the pie....a very small piece of the pie. now, make a run to the Sweet 16 and the Valley will be bringing in a lot more money....

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      • #4
        The NCAA Tournament payoffs are for 6 years, and they are HUGE to our athletic budget. A 4 team MVC representation in the NCAA tournament and a couple round run by the Panthers would really help our favorite school's athletic budget (let alone exposure, buzz, alumni giving, and out of state students).
        The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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        • #5
          agreed...it really is a big boost to teams in the MVC and especially D1s in lower profile conferences. i distinctly remember talking to a few people 2 years ago and hearing the quote "Bryce Drew needs to come back and make a few more shots for Valpo because that payout is about to end...."

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          • #6
            1-AA conferences receive $1.8 million from a total of $96 million? To be divided among all 1-AA? What is that, about $15,000 per school. Takes a lot of nerve to give 2% of the revenue to an entire division and call it "for the overall health of college football".
            Winning is more fun than losing.

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            • #7
              Especially since 1-AA, D-II and D-III have the only true National Championships in college football. At least, at the VERY minimum, the NCAA should pay all of the travel expenses for the Division 1-AA, II & III Championship participants, plus give a % to each conference. It's only fair.

              ALSO, PTTB is VERY correct about the NCAA's in basketball. The more teams in the field, the better it is financially for UNI and the entire Valley. Then, the more games that the conference wins in the NCAA's, the more money for everyone. GO VALLEY!
              "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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              • #8
                My math says $28,125 for us, but I'm no math major ($225K/8 right??).

                Also, can someone explain this "6 year" thing??? I don't have any clue what this means. How much money are we talking about? How does it change based on wins? Does the money go straight to the MVC?

                Money aside, is the 6 year thing from the first appearance or the last -- like do we have 6 years from the end of the appearance 2 years ago or 6 years from last season?

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                • #9
                  Let me break it down this way:
                  TOTAL EXAMPLE...NOT REAL TEAMS/WINS/BIDS
                  Let's say 6 years ago, the MVC had 2 bids and they each played in 2 games, which is 4 games. The following year there were 2 bids and played in 1 game apiece (total of 2 games). The third year the MVC got 2 bids and 4 games. The 4th year they got 3 teams and 5 games. The 5th year they got 2 teams and 3 games. The 6th year (last year), the MVC got 3 teams and 4 games.

                  So here's the breakdown:
                  Year 1: 4 games
                  Year 2: 2 games
                  Year 3: 4 games
                  Year 4: 5 games
                  Year 5: 3 games
                  Year 6: 4 games
                  So, let's say that UNI didn't play in any of these games, so they got 1 unit out of 12. Let's hypothetically say that the payouts for each game is $12,000 per year (over 6 years=a total of $72,000 total). That $12K is split up among 12 units (10MVC teams+1 for MVC office+1 for team participating in game). So, UNI would get this per year:
                  Year 1: $4,000, Year 2: $2000, Year 3: $4000, Year 4: $5000, Year 5: $3000, Year 6: $4000

                  So, UNI's total NCAA Tournament earnings, without even playing in a game would be: $22,000 this year. If this upcoming tournament, UNI were to play in a game and the MVC get the same number of bids as 6 years ago (the year that is no longer accounted for, b/c it will now be 7 years ago), UNI would get $23,000 next year (the extra $1000 comes from the one unit that UNI gets for playing in that one NCAA Tourney game). UNI would receive that extra $1000 for a total of six years. After year six, UNI no longer is compensated for playing that tourney game, and unless they go back to the tourney and/or the MVC plays in more games in the tourney, then UNI would receive less money after year six. I know, it's complicated, but I hope you understand better how this works. Again, this was just an example.
                  The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Panthers to the Bone
                    Let me break it down this way:
                    TOTAL EXAMPLE...NOT REAL TEAMS/WINS/BIDS
                    Let's say 6 years ago, the MVC had 2 bids and they each played in 2 games, which is 4 games. The following year there were 2 bids and played in 1 game apiece (total of 2 games). The third year the MVC got 2 bids and 4 games. The 4th year they got 3 teams and 5 games. The 5th year they got 2 teams and 3 games. The 6th year (last year), the MVC got 3 teams and 4 games.

                    So here's the breakdown:
                    Year 1: 4 games
                    Year 2: 2 games
                    Year 3: 4 games
                    Year 4: 5 games
                    Year 5: 3 games
                    Year 6: 4 games
                    So, let's say that UNI didn't play in any of these games, so they got 1 unit out of 12. Let's hypothetically say that the payouts for each game is $12,000 per year (over 6 years=a total of $72,000 total). That $12K is split up among 12 units (10MVC teams+1 for MVC office+1 for team participating in game). So, UNI would get this per year:
                    Year 1: $4,000, Year 2: $2000, Year 3: $4000, Year 4: $5000, Year 5: $3000, Year 6: $4000

                    So, UNI's total NCAA Tournament earnings, without even playing in a game would be: $22,000 this year. If this upcoming tournament, UNI were to play in a game and the MVC get the same number of bids as 6 years ago (the year that is no longer accounted for, b/c it will now be 7 years ago), UNI would get $23,000 next year (the extra $1000 comes from the one unit that UNI gets for playing in that one NCAA Tourney game). UNI would receive that extra $1000 for a total of six years. After year six, UNI no longer is compensated for playing that tourney game, and unless they go back to the tourney and/or the MVC plays in more games in the tourney, then UNI would receive less money after year six. I know, it's complicated, but I hope you understand better how this works. Again, this was just an example.
                    whoa. thats a lot to absorb. i think i get it though. thanks!

                    so the next question is... where did the 6 year thing come from??? how arbitrary was it?

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                    • #11
                      That's a good explanation of the NCAA money for the MVC, but this started out being about BCS money for the Gateway.
                      GO PANTHERS!

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                      • #12


                        For example, last year the Valley placed three men's teams in the tournament — Creighton, Northern Iowa and Southern Illinois. Each school made the league $152,038 just by making it, and SIU doubled that total by winning its first-round game.
                        The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Panthers to the Bone
                          http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs...601180377/1096

                          For example, last year the Valley placed three men's teams in the tournament — Creighton, Northern Iowa and Southern Illinois. Each school made the league $152,038 just by making it, and SIU doubled that total by winning its first-round game.
                          Excuse me but isn't this the "Panther Football" board?
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                          FCS IS BEST!

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                          • #14
                            Yes it is Ralph.
                            GO NORTHERN IOWA PANTHERS![SIZE="6"][/SIZE]

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ralph
                              Excuse me but isn't this the "Panther Football" board?
                              Its winter, we're bored, and what threads don't tend to sift and winnow their way from off subject to back on??

                              Get over it.

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