Conference Shuffle

[sevelev711]

When the dust settles it looks like 2 power conferences with most of the heavy hitters. That would be the BIG and the ACC. The best of the SEC would be ACC. Everyone else will be 2nd, 3rd, or 4th tier, DIi, DIII, NAIA, and JC.

Wait, you think that the ACC would poach the SEC?

[Blue42]

That's what Paul Finebaum of the SEC Network said on ESPN on Friday. He said the two would be ACC and BIG. Perhaps, the SEC bottom half remain, but they would be tier two.

That's pretty absurd.

The SEC is the most powerful conference in the country by far.

They have Bama, Georgia, Florida, Texas and Oklahoma.

The ACC has the worst TV deal in the country and minimal political power. They're about to be dismantled.

[havok58]

B1G is done with the Pac12, unless Notre Dame accepts an invite to B1G, then they will add Stanford to the conference to make it 18 and keep the Notre Dame - Stanford rivalry. Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech and Miami go SEC. B1G goes after North Carolina and Duke or Virginia. Who knows, maybe B1G and SEC cut loose some “undesirable” members to make room for the new schools.

an article I read said the Big 12 merges with PAC 12 to create a hybrid conference with the following schools left out: Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Oregon State, Washington State, West Virginia.

UNI will still remain FCS. If they can’t afford to keep pace with other FCS in stadium renovations, NIL, etc, there’s no way they will go up to the next level. This is all about tv ratings and tv markets. UNI offers neither. And if a school like Iowa State is in a predicted model of not being included in a hybrid pac 12 - big 12 merger, then UNI and other FCS programs are not in the conversations.

this is going to be a fun summer to see how this all plays out.

[BrockLesnar]

That's pretty absurd.

The SEC is the most powerful conference in the country by far.

They have Bama, Georgia, Florida, Texas and Oklahoma.

The ACC has the worst TV deal in the country and minimal political power. They're about to be dismantled.

What would make the most sense is to have four 16 team conferences, but it looks like it's going to be two 32 team conferences. Four 16 conferences would put schools in the same geographical region together. The two 32 team conferences would not. It has potential for Washington and Florida to be in the same league.

[sevelev711]

UNI will still remain FCS. If they can’t afford to keep pace with other FCS in stadium renovations, NIL, etc, there’s no way they will go up to the next level. This is all about tv ratings and tv markets. UNI offers neither. And if a school like Iowa State is in a predicted model of not being included in a hybrid pac 12 - big 12 merger, then UNI and other FCS programs are not in the conversations.

this is going to be a fun summer to see how this all plays out.

This is why I think that a mid-west, less-private, still-having-football-version of the Big East wouldn't be a horrible idea, even though I know there's no way it would happen, for many, many reasons. Us, Kansas, Iowa State, Wichita, Memphis, Illinois State, Missouri State, teams like that. Create a 14-team, basketball focused conference, with 10 or so teams that field football teams, right around the G5 level. Top 10 basketball conference, top 10 football conference, full of schools in the middle of America that don't belong in either the Big 10 nor the MAC.

Again, fully aware that there's a couple dozen reasons that it wouldn't happen, but it certainly wouldn't be the worst outcome for the teams listed above.

[BrockLesnar]

Wait, you think that the ACC would poach the SEC?

I don't. Paul Finebaum said that. He has proven to be correct in the past on sweeping changes.

[sevelev711]

I don't. Paul Finebaum said that. He has proven to be correct in the past on sweeping changes.

Sure, but like...that might be the least likely thing to happen in this reshuffling. I would genuinely rank that under "UNI enters Big 12," which won't happen ever. There's just no reason for any SEC team to leave that conference. No matter how bad you're sports program is, you're making so much more money than you would in the ACC. It just ain't worth it.

[BrockLesnar]

Gotcha. Personally, in a "MWC gets raided" scenario, I don't know if they'd go as far out east as we are, I think they'd definitely choose to shore up from the west coast, especially considering they'd likely lose at least two California schools, which they'd want to replace for that reason, quality be dammed. Certainly wouldn't complain about this scenario, though.

That has to do with money. The MWC will travel to Ames to get paid $1 million by the clowns. They're not going to Cedar Falls for a few hotdogs.

[BrockLesnar]

This is why I think that a mid-west, less-private, still-having-football-version of the Big East wouldn't be a horrible idea, even though I know there's no way it would happen, for many, many reasons. Us, Kansas, Iowa State, Wichita, Memphis, Illinois State, Missouri State, teams like that. Create a 14-team, basketball focused conference, with 10 or so teams that field football teams, right around the G5 level. Top 10 basketball conference, top 10 football conference, full of schools in the middle of America that don't belong in either the Big 10 nor the MAC.

Again, fully aware that there's a couple dozen reasons that it wouldn't happen, but it certainly wouldn't be the worst outcome for the teams listed above.

Northern Iowa, Murray State, Missouri State, Illinois State, Wichita State with football, Southern Illinois, Indiana State, Youngstown State, Butler upgrades to FCS Football with 63 rides, South Dakota State, South Dakota, North Dakota, North Dakota State, Montana, Montana State, and Drake with 63 rides. Divide the 16 into East and West. If Butler, Wichta, and Drake refuse to upgrade take Weber State, Utah Tech, and Northern Colorado. May or may not work.

[havok58]

That's what Paul Finebaum of the SEC Network said on ESPN on Friday. He said the two would be ACC and BIG. Perhaps, the SEC bottom half remain, but they would be tier two.

i watched the clip and I think he misspoke, meaning to say SEC and BIG. He goes on talking how the ACC commish killed the proposed CFP and now he needs to focus on having the ACC survive. Finebaum also suggests that Clemson needs to leave the ACC for the SEC if it wants to keep its championship hopes alive.

[BrockLesnar]

East: Northern Iowa, North Dakota State, Illinois State, Southern Illinois, Murray State, Indiana State, Youngstown State, and Missouri State.

West: South Dakota State, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Montana State, Weber State, Eastern Washington, and Northern Colorado.

Eleven conference games vs the 7 divisional and 4 against the inter division. Flip flop the schedules each year of the home and away games. If 12 games we would have one out of league game. So, we could still play Iowa or Iowa State. I like having 12.

[vbfan19]

We HAVE to stay at the third level of football and that's going to be the G5 from here

Nah. No reason to dump even more money into something that isn't really working in the "cost-containment" subdivision of D-I, unless there is a guaranteed media contract that brings in a ton more money. And I just don't think that is going to happen.

[sevelev711]

Northern Iowa, Murray State, Missouri State, Illinois State, Wichita State with football, Southern Illinois, Indiana State, Youngstown State, Butler upgrades to FCS Football with 63 rides, South Dakota State, South Dakota, North Dakota, North Dakota State, Montana, Montana State, and Drake with 63 rides. Divide the 16 into East and West. If Butler, Wichta, and Drake refuse to upgrade take Weber State, Utah Tech, and Northern Colorado. May or may not work.

...That's not at all what I meant with my idea lol.

[BCPanther]

Nah. No reason to dump even more money into something that isn't really working in the "cost-containment" subdivision of D-I, unless there is a guaranteed media contract that brings in a ton more money. And I just don't think that is going to happen.

Every G5 league pulls in media money. That would, undoubtedly, be part of the financial puzzle.

FCS is already a giant money loser and if/when it falls a spot in the pecking order, it becomes an albatross.

[BrockLesnar]

...That's not at all what I meant with my idea lol.

I know, but has a more realistic chance. Although my idea may not work. It's hard to say how we'll end up.