hawk players transfering

[ubuntuCAT]

Are they worth recruiting? I don't really know much about them or where they may be going.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070420/SPORTS020502/70420009/1003/SPORTS&GID=nJJ5zq8wQ0TWQr1QEuC9RL8Vk3ACSU3lVlIx9X/YkUY%3D

[panther2317]

"He just wants to go where he's wanted," Rick Bain, his father, told the Press-Citizen. "Yeah, (the Hawkeyes) wanted him. But you know why they wanted him. They wanted him for a back-up to Matt Kroul and Kenny Iwebema and you don't get looked at (by NFL teams) as a backup."

We don't want him if this is the way his father is. His dad ought to know that anyone can get drafted into the NFL. It doesn't matter even if you don't play college football. Look at Marcus Pollard (who played college basketball at Bradley) and Antonio Gates who played basketball at Kent State. My guess is they think he's too "big time" to come to a place like UNI and they'll look for another BCS school where he'll sit for a year (stupid) and then have two years left to play. His dad's head is in the wrong place. If his kid worked harder and produced more...he'd start. This isn't high school athletic politics...Iowa (and other colleges) play the kids they can win with. His dad needs a reality check.

[Mountain Panther]

I thing Bain also got busted just last week for a few alcohol related offenses. That may have something to do with this departure as well.

Potential problem child?

[UNI MadCat]

"He just wants to go where he's wanted," Rick Bain, his father, told the Press-Citizen. "Yeah, (the Hawkeyes) wanted him. But you know why they wanted him. They wanted him for a back-up to Matt Kroul and Kenny Iwebema and you don't get looked at (by NFL teams) as a backup."

We don't want him if this is the way his father is. His dad ought to know that anyone can get drafted into the NFL. It doesn't matter even if you don't play college football. Look at Marcus Pollard (who played college basketball at Bradley) and Antonio Gates who played basketball at Kent State. My guess is they think he's too "big time" to come to a place like UNI and they'll look for another BCS school where he'll sit for a year (stupid) and then have two years left to play. His dad's head is in the wrong place. If his kid worked harder and produced more...he'd start. This isn't high school athletic politics...Iowa (and other colleges) play the kids they can win with. His dad needs a reality check.

Agreed 2317. I remember when this kid signed at that Army HS All-Star game a couple of years ago. At the time he was down to Wisconsin and Iowa and I had Iowa fans call me and rub it in that he chose the Hawks. I remember clearly thinking that day, "this kid looks like a big SOB, I'm glad we didnt get him." Now, I was probably ticked off and therefore a bit biased but, honestly, I just didnt like how cocky he looked. These quotes dont surprise me. Nothing about this kid seems likeable. His dad deserves a shot in the mouth. Parents like this are what make me shudder at the thought of my kids playing sports -- they take all of the fun out of it.

I think it is fairly obvious that he would look down on UNI and, frankly, I dont think we want this kid period. He has problem child written all over him. I think the staff is pretty leery of these types of kids after extending a chance to Hill and that backfired.

I dont know much about the other kid... anyone??

[Matt Trump]

C'mon you guys. Is this not the same group of fans who said Farley could turn around Hakeem Hill??? That we could give him a chance because Farley knows how to handle characters?

Everyone knows that if this kid comes to UNI, plays well, behaves, then he will be exaulted. Plus, our dline is always in need of a big time run stuffer.

Who cares how the kids father acts. I know plenty of football players who have this attitude and their parents are the same way. If he is cocky, gets along with teamates, and he can play it won't matter. Most guys who play defensive line are inherently cocky. Its takes an ATTITUDE to play defense.

And as far as the drinking charge goes, he's not the first person (nor the last) who will get a drinking ticket during college. ESPECIALLY in Iowa City.

[Chitown Panther]

I could see him going to Northern Illinois.

I think it would be great if he came to UNI.....if he F's off.....coaches will kick him out.

Cyrus Garrett and the LB from a few years ago were both from Bolingbrook.....

[Matt Trump]

Cyrus Garrett and the LB from a few years ago were both from Bolingbrook.....

That LB would be Titus Ivory.

[Blue42]

I've gotta agree with Trump here. You guys are drawing some pretty harsh conclusions pretty quickly on this kid. I don't doubt that he may have some attitude. But sounds like the kid wants to get on the field. Everyone has their own priorities when the invest the time to play sports. As long has the player contributes in a positive way, it's OK to have some attitude.

I'm not trying to defend this guy personally, because I don't know a thing about him, but seems like some of you were writing him off pretty quick.

[Mudrafan]

this guy will have a long line of suiters & we are not one of them. There has to be more hair on it for us to get involved.

[Panthers to the Bone]

Mudrafan-

I'm not familiar with the expression "There has to be more hair on it" (for us to get involved). What does that mean? Thanks!

[Mudrafan]

they would have had to have been kicked off, gotten in trouble w/ the law tothe point that the writing was on the wall, desparate for playing time, etc. Bain is above our radar. He got in trouble but not enough to scare the BCS schools.

[Blue42]

they would have had to have been kicked off, gotten in trouble w/ the law tothe point that the writing was on the wall, desparate for playing time, etc. Bain is above our radar. He got in trouble but not enough to scare the BCS schools.

I think you're blowing some smoke here Mudra.

Benny Sapp was the Big Ten Freshman of the Year and eventually ended up at UNI. Everyone knew he had huge potential at the time, certainly moreso than a 6'2" 2nd string d-lineman.

Whitney Lewis was Mr California football in high school from USC and he ended up at UNI.

Anybody who follows college & pro football closely, incluing a dis-enchanted player and his vociferous father, knows the level of football played at UNI and that you can certainly get to the NFL from Cedar Falls. It's been done many times.

[MGLD Panther]

I think you're blowing some smoke here Mudra.

Benny Sapp was the Big Ten Freshman of the Year and eventually ended up at UNI. Everyone knew he had huge potential at the time, certainly moreso than a 6'2" 2nd string d-lineman.

Whitney Lewis was Mr California football in high school from USC and he ended up at UNI.

Anybody who follows college & pro football closely, incluing a dis-enchanted player and his vociferous father, knows the level of football played at UNI and that you can certainly get to the NFL from Cedar Falls. It's been done many times.

Amen Brother! Father's don't make their kids NFL players. How many people coach a youth team and have come across a father like this guys father? I guarantee EVERY person who coaches a youth team has a parent who thinks their kid is the next best thing...

I say, "Welcome big ole D lineman"

[Chitown Panther]

If he wants to sit out a year.....Northern Illinois would be logical.....if he would go FCS.....UNI or Illinois State seem likely.....

[Panthers to the Bone]

Chitown, I was thinking the exact same things regarding potential teams.