I don't always agree with Sean Keeler, but he typically treats UNI fair and this column is no exception. He puts the reality on the table for Iowa State.
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Keeler's Column - "After second ISU loss, expect 10 more."
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Originally posted by GonzoCat View PostInteresting, I had sort of the opposite opinion of that column. To me he's is giving no credit to UNI and is basically saying if ISU can't beat UNI they can't beat anybody.
I predict ISU will win two games this year minimum.
Hard to not find a compliment here:
And at the same time, give credit where it's due. The Panthers had a win here in their grasp a year ago and couldn't finish the job. This time, they did.
An upset, hardly. Northern Iowa is nobody's Division I-AA - sorry, Football Championship Subdivision, or whatever the heck they're calling it - meal ticket. They had the better signal-caller in senior Eric Sanders, who lived up to his billing as the best major-college quarterback in the state. The Oelwein native completed 12 of his first 15 tosses with ruthless efficiency.
If the Panthers had any butterflies, they never showed them. Sanders' second touchdown was the ultimate display of chutzpah - at Iowa State's 5 with 3:34 left in the first half and the visitors up 10-6, coach Mark Farley elected to go for it rather than attempt a short field goal. Sanders calmly fired a slant to Victor Williams in the end zone.
"We came here to win," Farley explained.
They were the better team by a good margin. They were the hungrier team by a country mile. Based on the eye test, the Panthers look playoff-ready.
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I thought it was a good column, and quite complimentary.
Look at this from the "Des Moines/Ames" perspective. ISU is a BCS league, "major" college program. We are a top "FCS" program, but that's not the same thing.
How would WE react, or expect the courier to react, if we lost to a "top" DII team.
We already know that answer, don't we? We'd give credit where due, but walk away saying "That should NEVER happen."
I'd guess Iowa State feels the same way. UNI earned every inch of that victory last night, but when you consider the advantage they have in resources, facilities and the like, it just shouldn't happen. (Chalk up another to UNI doing far more with far less.)
Then again, "reality" knows nothing about a purple cat.
One other note: That was my first ever game at Jack Trice. Is that what it's like? Is that as loud as it gets? The only time it was at all loud was when their PA guy specifically told them to get loud (I GREATLY prefer the way Bob does it in the dome...just give the situation [it's third and ten!] and know the fans know what to do). Otherwise, that place is REALLY quiet.
When they were supposedly getting loud once last night the though occurred to me again...how great would it be to get those guys in our building just one time? Take your Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas...they've NEVER heard anything like the UNI-Dome.
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My take is Keeler's column was pretty complimentary to UNI but entirely too negative for ISU. There's no reason to call them out as an 0-12 team. Let them play their schedule and then if it happens, you can say that.
I'm no ISU apologist, and if they went 0 for 2007 it wouldn't really bother me at all, but their fans and players don't need to see that kind of write up at this point in the season.Winning is more fun than losing.
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I think the crowd kind of knew what was coming (due to the Kent St performance) and kind of sat back. It was about as loud as it gets but, I've seen more electric crowds there. Last years game was MUCH more exciting and loud. Iowa games and Nebraska visits are also louder and more energizing if the game is close. I've also been there at times and you could hear a pin drop halfway through the 2nd qtr.Originally posted by Newsbreaker View PostI
One other note: That was my first ever game at Jack Trice. Is that what it's like? Is that as loud as it gets? The only time it was at all loud was when their PA guy specifically told them to get loud (I GREATLY prefer the way Bob does it in the dome...just give the situation [it's third and ten!] and know the fans know what to do). Otherwise, that place is REALLY quiet.
Another thing to consider is that the setup is not condusive to noise. It is pretty wide open and the fans sit pretty far back from the field. Not like Nebraska or Kinnick where its right on top and bowled in.
They have nice, passionate fans, but they are not much into getting very loud and rowdy. They haven't been used to much success and no one hasn't really challenged them to step up to the plate until recently. But, Pollardini is trying to energize the masses with new fans while getting the old ones going as well.
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I'd been absolutely dead in there since the 3rd quarter of the Kent game. Trust me as an ISU fan when I say that it can get absolutely crazy in there. Previous Iowa games and the Colorado "tornado" game of 2005 come to mind. Definite weak sauce yesterday.Originally posted by Newsbreaker View PostOne other note: That was my first ever game at Jack Trice. Is that what it's like? Is that as loud as it gets? The only time it was at all loud was when their PA guy specifically told them to get loud (I GREATLY prefer the way Bob does it in the dome...just give the situation [it's third and ten!] and know the fans know what to do). Otherwise, that place is REALLY quiet.
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I'll be pulling for the Clones this Saturday. {because: a) Hawk fans are waaaay too full of themselves. b) barring other factors, I always like teams that the Panthers have wins against, to do well in the other games of their seasons}
Have to admit that I wouldn't put any money on ISU, but the ISU/Iowa game often seems to be somewhat of a wildcard, regardless of how the teams seem to compare going into the game.
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I agree Jay...
This pains me, as you all know how much I HATE the Hawks...
However Iowa wins by 5 touchdowns- minimum
Iowa 49
ISU 0
That ISU offense didn't have much success against us. Iowa has given up 3 points in two games. The other big factor is that McCarney put everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, into beating Iowa. Chizik won't- Iowa Rolls...
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Maybe they should bring McCarney back for the game. It might be the only chance they have.Originally posted by Brett Crawford View PostI agree Jay...
This pains me, as you all know how much I HATE the Hawks...
However Iowa wins by 5 touchdowns- minimum
Iowa 49
ISU 0
That ISU offense didn't have much success against us. Iowa has given up 3 points in two games. The other big factor is that McCarney put everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, into beating Iowa. Chizik won't- Iowa Rolls...
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Thanks for making me look stupid Trump, I can do that quite well on my own thank you.
I partially retract my statement. I guess I should have read the whole article before commenting. I read the first half and got tired of his little trick of writing Oh-and-12 at the end of every paragraph.
He did give UNI credit, but I still believe his main point was if ISU can't beat UNI they can't beat anybody. And I stand by my prediction of at least 2 wins for the clones.GO PANTHERS!
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Nothing wrong on your part. Keeler usually brings about that response.Originally posted by GonzoCat View PostThanks for making me look stupid Trump, I can do that quite well on my own thank you.
I partially retract my statement. I guess I should have read the whole article before commenting. I read the first half and got tired of his little trick of writing Oh-and-12 at the end of every paragraph.
He did give UNI credit, but I still believe his main point was if ISU can't beat UNI they can't beat anybody. And I stand by my prediction of at least 2 wins for the clones.
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Couldn't agree more. Bob is the best.Originally posted by Newsbreaker View Post
One other note: That was my first ever game at Jack Trice. Is that what it's like? Is that as loud as it gets? The only time it was at all loud was when their PA guy specifically told them to get loud (I GREATLY prefer the way Bob does it in the dome...just give the situation [it's third and ten!] and know the fans know what to do). Otherwise, that place is REALLY quiet.
How about the alumni president attempting to get the crowd going in the pre-game? He must do that at all home games because I remember him from last year. He and the PA guy have to go way overboard to get their fans excited.
Also, having your team come out of the locker room for the second half to Sweet Caroline is simply embarassing.
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