Drake @ Iowa

[JayJ79]

The Bulldogs beat the Hawkeyes 56-51.
Drake's first win in Carver-Hawkeye.

Iowa never shot a single free-throw. wow.

and the stands looked not-too-full.

[DRAKELAWPANTHER]

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When Drake went up 11 late in the first, I thought it would be another blowout...but their offense seemed to really sputter. They didn't perform as well as I had expected, but a win at Carver is a win at Carver - especially when it's the first win there in 40 years.

9-1. Gotta give Drake some credit.

Let's hope UNI is 9-2 by Christmas!

[Purple member]

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Now all we need to do is beat Drake and we can claim the state title. I remember thinking that last year at this time too.

[unigriff]

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except we have to beat them both times as we lost to Iowa and Drake is 2-0.

[Khan4Cats]

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except we have to beat them both times as we lost to Iowa and Drake is 2-0.

Nah, they gave Drake the FOX BIG 4 TM trophy after the first UNI-Drake game last year. If we beat them in the first game (in DM again this year) we will both be 2-1, but we hold the tie-break, plus we get the bonus points from football in the Fareway Cat-Dog Series TM

[UNI Prof]

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Nah, they gave Drake the FOX BIG 4 TM trophy after the first UNI-Drake game last year. If we beat them in the first game (in DM again this year) we will both be 2-1, but we hold the tie-break, plus we get the bonus points from football in the Fareway Cat-Dog Series TM

The Courier today handed the title to Drake in their headline for the game. Did anyone else see that?

[unigriff]

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Nah, they gave Drake the FOX BIG 4 TM trophy after the first UNI-Drake game last year. If we beat them in the first game (in DM again this year) we will both be 2-1, but we hold the tie-break, plus we get the bonus points from football in the Fareway Cat-Dog Series TM

Yes but last year we were both 2-0 going into the Cat-Dog game...and DU won so they clinched at least a share of it anyway...Since they are 2-0 and we are 1-1, a victory would put us only up percentage points on them...we could still go 2-2 and they could go 3-1.

[Khan4Cats]

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Yes but last year we were both 2-0 going into the Cat-Dog game...and DU won so they clinched at least a share of it anyway...Since they are 2-0 and we are 1-1, a victory would put us only up percentage points on them...we could still go 2-2 and they could go 3-1.

I need to figure out how to put the right smilies in to show sarcasm.

I couldn't care less if we get some wooden junior high shop plaque by beating Drake. Heck I could care less if we lose to Drake twice yet still go 16-2 in the Valley. Last year we lost twice to Drake, still finished higher in conference and would have been playing in postseason again with probably one more win down the stretch.

Everybody's hyping out about how great a start Drake has had (they were 9-2 pre-MVC last year). I could care less. They still haven't really played anyone. St. Mary's? Please, they are from a one-bid conference dominated by a team named Gonzaga.

I'm more worried about how we improve over the year. We forced more turnovers against Iowa than they did, if we shoot FT's at our average or Iowa shoots threes at their average, we win too. Unfortunately, we are a very young team and we will have ups and downs for a while, just so that the consistent ups start to come in February and March.

[UNIChippewa]

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Everybody's hyping out about how great a start Drake has had (they were 9-2 pre-MVC last year). I could care less. They still haven't really played anyone. St. Mary's? Please, they are from a one-bid conference dominated by a team named Gonzaga.

Might want to do some homework before ripping on St. Mary's. They beat a ranked Oregon earlier this year, and I beleive their only loss is at Southern Illinois, which is nothing to be ashamed about.

[DRAKELAWPANTHER]

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Grammar Alert: it's "I COULDN'T care less."

If you COULD care less, that means you care at least a little.

R.I.P. Dr. Grammar

[Khan4Cats]

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Everybody's hyping out about how great a start Drake has had (they were 9-2 pre-MVC last year). I could care less. They still haven't really played anyone. St. Mary's? Please, they are from a one-bid conference dominated by a team named Gonzaga.

Might want to do some homework before ripping on St. Mary's. They beat a ranked Oregon earlier this year, and I beleive their only loss is at Southern Illinois, which is nothing to be ashamed about.

Yes, I'll rip on St. Mary's. A team with one loss, in their ONLY road game to date. A team that gave up 71 points to an SIU team that has topped 63 once (against Northern Illinois, and we know how good they are.)

So they beat Oregon, so did Nebraska. Oh, Nebraska's good? As long as they are at home. They're winless away as well.

Still way too early to crown St. Mary's as anything other than a team that played a lot of home games early. I'll wait til they play at Texas to see if they are for real, but the SIU game popped their bubble so far. Kind of like Iowa actually playing a little defense showed Drake can be had (since they scored a whopping 1 more point against the Hawks than we did).

[UNIChippewa]

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So I guess I'm not sure what you are trying to say exactly. A team shouldn't be considered to be a good team unless they win a road game this early in the season, even if they beat a Top 15 team that made it to the Elite Eight last year, just because they lost on the road to a team that made it to the Sweet Sixteen last year? Does St. Mary's have to beat Top 10 Texas at Texas for you to give them credit? How do you know Nebraska's not any good? They're 8-2 last time I checked with some decent victories. Objectively, I think that Nebraska and St. Mary's are probably better than us right now, considering we lost to a bad Iowa team on our own floor.

Look, you're certainly entitled to your own opinion on this. It just appears that you have a very narrow standard of what makes a good team a good team. I just hope that our coaches and players aren't as dismissive about Drake as you seem to be.

[GonzoCat]

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I think Drake is better than they were last year when they beat us twice. I hope we can beat them, but they will and should be favored against us. I'd guess by about 7-8 in Dsm.

[Matt Trump]

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With their perimeter play, Drake is a very poor matchup for us. Just like last year but worse.

[Khan4Cats]

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With their perimeter play, Drake is a very poor matchup for us. Just like last year but worse.

They are typically a poor match-up. They don't even have a true post player, since Keita graduated. Cox and Korver are really small forward types who can step out and handle the ball a little more and are more comfortable facing the basket on the perimeter than banging inside. They like to up-tempo and cover for their lack of size by zoning up on defense. The zone alone has been something that causes us fits since we don't exactly have a great zone offense. Maybe this year we will see Reed, Dunham, or Josten start to penetrate with the dribble and then dish, but I have to see it before I'll believe. I'm hoping these are two games where Jake doesn't decide that having a distinct advantage on the inside is somehow unfair and decides to try and play with four guards against them.