I wish Jared Josten would stop taking horrible shots all the time

[in_the_stands]

Re: I wish Jared Josten would stop taking horrible shots all the time

we have to face the fact that we are not a very good up paced team. We need to slow things down and work the ball around and feed the post its the only way that we will go any where. If any thing this is a way to get are gaurds open to because the defense will start to double team them when they get ball and the kick outs will be there for josten and veit

Work the ball around, yes, but quick, crisp passes are needed to work the defense, not the lazy floaters that we tend to see the Panthers make against zones. Good ball movement forces defenders out of position and opens holes.

IIRC, we did pretty well last summer playing up-tempo international games, and we made Creighton pay for overplaying on their press by pushing the ball up-court. OTOH, when you're so deliberate that you don't get a decent shot off before the buzzer, you don't help yourself at all.

[UNIAlum95]

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Until we consistently make outside shots, we can't have a consistent post game. In the second half of almost every game, teams pack it in and challenge us to make shots, its not just that simple to throw the ball to Coleman and Eglseder, we have to make shots to give them a chance to be successful...

I disagree and Gary noted on OPR yesterday that KB pointed it out during the game (that UNI needed to stop settling for 3s and look inside again). When Drake started hitting 3s in the first half, UNI started settling for 3s instead of continuing to work the ball inside. It is clear (or at least should be by this point) that we are not a great outside shooting team. Given that we HAVE to work the ball inside to Jordan, EC, and Koch. Get them the ball....

[UNIPNTHR]

Re: I wish Jared Josten would stop taking horrible shots all the time

[QUOTE=UNIAlum95;113421]I disagree and Gary noted on OPR yesterday that KB pointed it out during the game (that UNI needed to stop settling for 3s and look inside again). When Drake started hitting 3s in the first half, UNI started settling for 3s instead of continuing to work the ball inside. [QUOTE]

Agreed...

Coleman is shooting 60% from the field, a good 3-pt shooter makes about 40%. So if they each take 15 shots and make their average: Coleman makes 10 scoring 20 pts, 3-ptr makes 6 and scores 18. If he shoots over 40%, Comleman can make up the difference by getting fouled and making FT's...

Risk/reward, even against the outside shooting teams, we need to pound it in the paint.

[BonduBluejay10]

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Well for starters I didn't start this to get attention for one player, just because I am from Bondurant doesn't mean i'm always giving Kerwin the benefit of the doubt because for a while I didn't even think they should've started him. And this thread was from an overall standpoint not just the drake game and that I think he needs to play more like a point guard and not so much a shooting guard. And yes that travel by kwerwin was big but i think the biggest factor in the game was drakes 3pt shooting

[BCPanther]

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You can't make Josten something he isn't. Its great to say you think he should play like a point guard, but when he has been a 2 all of his life, its not just that easy to flip a switch and move into point guard mode.

He has performed admirably considering the circumstances...

[BonduBluejay10]

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Yea I know... its hard but you'd think that 3/4 of the way throuh the season he would have made the adjustment to the point and just because i am from bondurant doesn't necesarily make me kerwin biased and i think jostens good but the team would be better if he could ease into the point quicker.

[Matt Trump]

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Yea I know... its hard but you'd think that 3/4 of the way throuh the season he would have made the adjustment to the point and just because i am from bondurant doesn't necesarily make me kerwin biased and i think jostens good but the team would be better if he could ease into the point quicker.

You started the thread criticizing a player that at the same time promotes your buddy.

[BonduBluejay10]

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what i was trying to do was give my idea that would allow josten to get the best out of his shot attempts and i thought kerwin and haak at the point would do that.

[UNIPNTHR]

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...just because i am from bondurant doesn't necesarily make me kerwin biased...

Not necessarily, but your signature reading "GoKerwinDunham" isn't helping your case any.

[BonduBluejay10]

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lol yea thats true don't let that fool you though

[UNI_12]

Re: I wish Jared Josten would stop taking horrible shots all the time

And the fact that you mention Kerwin in nearly every single post that you make doesn't help your cause any...or the fact that out of all of the guards and wing players on this team, you choose to single out the best one (and most consistent)...not to mention your original point on his last second "horrible shots"...what would you recommend he do? Try and force a pass to someone that isn't open, and doesn't shoot as high of percentage as him anyway?...or maybe just hold onto the ball for a shot-clock violation?...he's the only guard on the team that can get his own shot, and the last perimeter player you should be singling out.

[jman2004]

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And the fact that I'm not convinced Kerwin running the point would be a good thing at this point in time. We'll have Moran next season. Kwadzo will be healthy, and Haak has shown he can be beneficial. Let Haak and Josten share the roll. It's pointless to force it upon Kerwin at this point in time.

Let Kerwin play the position he'll naturally have to play for us for the next 3 seasons. Plus, I don't think he's looked very good at the point.

[shadow]

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Imagine the record without Josten...come on any basketball fan can see that without him the record so far would be far different,I think Josten was thrown into a difficult spot and handled it pretty well,also gives it up all game IMO on both ends,which might hurt his shooting percentage being tired as heck

[GonzoCat]

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The shadow knows...

Lol, I thought that was clever, but I just realized only Oldcat and maybe 3-4 other people on here are going to get it.