My BB Lineup & Thoughts

[Panther-Sheik]

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He doesn't turn the ball over because all he does is catch and pass.....catch and pass.....catch and pass. He isn't agressive and definitely lacks the ability to break down a defense with his "dribble drive".

I agree JC...if you are aggressive you will make more mistakes. Molestead hasn't had a turnover in weeks...doesn't make him more valuable than Reed. I would also rather have an aggressive EC out there fouling out every night after logging 30 minutes than playing 15 - 20 minutes and finishing with 3 fouls riding the pine for the last 5 minutes..

[Panther-Sheik]

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Early in the year Dunham did drive and shoot...with success. Since then he has not and I'm not sure as to why. I suspect he does not have the confidence.....or he has been discouraged from doing so...or both.

Kerwin had his confidence sqwashed about 5 games into the season. I remember him getting pulled a couple games for missing shots early in the shot clock...not bad shots, they just didn't fall and were early in the clock. I think Jake subscribes to the theory that any shot that goes in is a good one...but vice versa, too.

[kpanther]

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Personally I'm all for the idea if you have a good look take the shot. Far far far (have I mentioned far) too many times we are forced to throw something up with less than 5 seconds. I do not feel our players have the support from the coaching staff to pull the trigger as they woudl like. Perhaps I am wrong (and I hope so) but it sure looks like we are playing very tentative.

[BCPanther]

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If we can have a 4-0 or 3-1 finish it will get us to 18 or 19 wins headed for St. Louis. A win down there gives us a 20 win season which is a two win improvement from last year and gives us shot to get into the NIT or the new other tournament (CBI?).

All is not lost for this year and I think we need to put that into perspective. If this team can find a way to play some extra basketball and get some extra official practices, it really sets us up well going into next year, which I think will be a big year for us.

I also think that we are overreacting about losing yesterday. That team is 23-2 and outright Valley champions, they are also a very experienced Junior and Senior dominated team. I think to be in the ballgame and to have a chance to win with this young group is a great sign for the future.

BTW- During the 2004 season (won Valley Tournament) we were 15-8 at this point coming off a tough loss on the Saturday before BracketBuster. I don't think we are done just yet!!

[Panthers to the Bone]

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He doesn't turn the ball over because all he does is catch and pass.....catch and pass.....catch and pass. He isn't agressive and definitely lacks the ability to break down a defense with his "dribble drive".

I'm not necessarily promoting for Kerwin to get more minutes, all I'm telling you is why Kerwin is getting the minutes he has been getting. FWIW, I thought Kerwin was much more aggressive yesterday.

[BCPanther]

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I thought Kerwin was dynamite in the first half yesterday. He is going to be VERY good by the time all is said and done here...

[JCPanthers]

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I'm not necessarily promoting for Kerwin to get more minutes, all I'm telling you is why Kerwin is getting the minutes he has been getting. FWIW, I thought Kerwin was much more aggressive yesterday.

Please don't think I'm a Kerwin hater....I think he will be a huge part of our success in the future. I just think his confidence is not there right now and he lacks the agressiveness that we need on the floor. I have seen this kid in high school and I know that he has the talent...just needs more confidence.

I'm a huge Carlton fan and I think if we give him the chance that he can do great things.

[Panthers to the Bone]

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JC-
I totally understand...wasn't calling you out for being one. I was just passing on that that is the reason why Kerwin is getting minutes.

[UNIPNTHR]

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He doesn't turn the ball over because all he does is catch and pass.....catch and pass.....catch and pass.

He must be making good passes then.

[06panther10]

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pretty hard to make a bad pass when it is to the other gaurd standing 10 feet away...

[BonduBluejay10]

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Heres what Kerwin does for the panthers values the basketball unlike every other panther just ask southern illinois and he does the small things and will eventually become a scorer unlike reed and brown and josten he rarely turnsthe ball over just look at his assist to turnover ratio he keeps the team together when hes on the court and thats why he desrves to be out there.

[dustin86]

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From espn.com
A/T
Colemen- 1/1.1
Josten- 1/1.2
JE- 1/1.8
Koch- 1/1.3
Brown- 1/1.2
Veit- 2.1/1
Dunham- 1.6/1
Reed- 1/1.9
Montgomery- 1.1/1
O'Rear- 1.5/1
Haak- 2.1/1

[PantherHawk]

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I just want someone who can play Defense! Man we are terrible on Defense, teams just seem to go 1on1 against us and get to the basket! Plus our guys don't close out on the shooters, they are all taking off running before the ball is rebounded! Personally we need to find some recruits who can play Defense and box out. We allow opposing teams way too many 2nd chances.

My starting 5 would be:
PG Josten (solid player, needs to not force some of the shots he takes)
SG Reed (just needs to get his legs back and start playing like he is capable)
SF Dunham (kid had a good shot, just needs to come off screens looking to shoot)
PF Koch (good player, needs to become more of a force inside)
C Egelseder (strong post player, but needs to play better Defense)

Off the Bench:
Coleman for either KOCH or Big E
Montgomery for Reed, (sorry those two in at the same time is not a good Combo)
Haak for Josten (Sub every other TV time-out, not every dead ball)
Viet for Dunham (again not every dead ball)

[UNI_12]

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I was impressed with how Kerwin played against S. Illinois, and I think we caught a little bit of a glimpse of the future there...but the reason he doesn't turn the ball over as much as those guys you listed is because he RARELY penetrates...and penetration is crucial in getting teammates good shots...Josten has to penetrate, or hardly any other guard on the team would ever get a good look besides from passes out of the post, and Reed and Brown also have an ability to penetrate, but can sometimes get a little more out of control.