Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

What do you mean, message boards aren't 100% proof? I think you are wrong...By the way, I heard that Kevin Love is not going to the NBA and is transfering to UNI.

Rumors aren't usually anything more than fans talking until it comes from a different source. I think a lot of Drake fans were throwing that out as a joke. I believe it actually started on Valleytalk to ruffle the MSU fans.

[jman2004]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

As much as I'd love to see Hinson in the Valley again, that is probably not happening.

Drake's new men's basketball coach will be:

1. Steve Forbes
2. Gary Close
3. Greg Lansing
4. Matt Woodley

or the wild card

5. Darren DeVries

[Matt Trump]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

Drake is getting interest from some very good candidates for this opening. That would not have happened at any point prior to this past season (other than maybe 38 years ago).

So they owe Keno and Tom for getting the program to a place where they will be able to hire a much better replacement than they otherwise would have.

In the final analysis, none of us smaller schools without immense resources will ever be able to hang onto any coach that brings great success to our teams, it's a real catch 22. That's just the market we live in now, the days of a coach staying somewhere for a long long career are gone.

The attempted analagies to other professions don't make much sense, this never happens to accountants, teachers, lawyers, or pretty much anyone else. Most regular people would be thrilled to get a 25% raise someday to change jobs.

Sports and acting are the only jobs I can think of offhand where someone can see their income increase tenfold overnight. There may be others I'm not thinking of, but very few. Only professions where there are a very limited number of top talented individuals, or at least there is perceived to be a very limited number of top talented individuals will ever see this type of market.

So are you changing your tune and forgiving Mac for leaving?

You seem to always play the loyalty card, yet you say that Drake owes Keno.

Then you say it is not realistic for us to compare this situation to the real world.

You've said in the past that money isn't everything, but how would could one really know if that situation wasn't feasable to us?????????????????

[GonzoCat]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

So are you changing your tune and forgiving Mac for leaving?

You seem to always play the loyalty card, yet you say that Drake owes Keno.

Then you say it is not realistic for us to compare this situation to the real world.

You've said in the past that money isn't everything, but how would could one really know if that situation wasn't feasable to us?????????????????

Yep, I'm changing my tune. I've done some reflecting on the whole topic of coaching moves and had a change of heart.

There's nothing to forgive Mac for, he was free to make whatever career move he felt was best for himself and his family.

I already explained why Drake owes Keno and/or Tom Davis. It's up to each individual coach to decide if he owes loyalty to his employer. In general though schools do not show a great deal of loyalty to coaches anymore, so coaches cannot be blamed for not showing loyalty in return. Keno Davis would know this as well as most based on his fathers experience at Iowa.

It's not realistic to compare it to the normal world that most people live in. I'm not sure what you are questioning there.

To some people money isn't everything, to some people it is, that is an individual choice. You are right though, most of us will never be faced with making that decision at that level. In the normal world people might be faced with something like a chance to make 50% more money, but it would mean a great deal of travel away from their family, lots of overtime, or something along those lines. Not on par with the type situation successful coaches face.

Bottom line for me now, after my change of heart, is nobody should blame a coach for making a move that is a giant step up in program level and/or pay.

If that seems like it is in opposition to anything I've said in the past you'll just have to forgive me and accept it as my current stance.

[Matt Trump]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

Yep, I'm changing my tune. I've done some reflecting on the whole topic of coaching moves and had a change of heart.

There's nothing to forgive Mac for, he was free to make whatever career move he felt was best for himself and his family.

I already explained why Drake owes Keno and/or Tom Davis. It's up to each individual coach to decide if he owes loyalty to his employer. In general though schools do not show a great deal of loyalty to coaches anymore, so coaches cannot be blamed for not showing loyalty in return. Keno Davis would know this as well as most based on his fathers experience at Iowa.

It's not realistic to compare it to the normal world that most people live in. I'm not sure what you are questioning there.

To some people money isn't everything, to some people it is, that is an individual choice. You are right though, most of us will never be faced with making that decision at that level. In the normal world people might be faced with something like a chance to make 50% more money, but it would mean a great deal of travel away from their family, lots of overtime, or something along those lines. Not on par with the type situation successful coaches face.

Bottom line for me now, after my change of heart, is nobody should blame a coach for making a move that is a giant step up in program level and/or pay.

If that seems like it is in opposition to anything I've said in the past you'll just have to forgive me and accept it as my current stance.

Wow. Would you like to hug it out?

[GonzoCat]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

Actually I'm just trying to get you off my ass Trump. Please stop posting pictures from your gay porno collection.

[Panther789]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

So far so good for Keno.

A win at Cinci last night to go 3-0 in the Big East. An RPI of 72.

The schedule gets much more difficult from here with a game at Georgetown and then Marquette at home.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

I watched some of that Cincy game. It is amazing to me how no matter what his teams can shoot the 3 pointer. They must have some sweet drills for that they do in practice or he just somehow gets good shooters no matter where he is at.

[Panther789]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

A win the other night against Syracuse to move Providence to 6-2 in the Big East. This team might have a legitimate shot at the NCAA tournament.

Think this makes anyone in Iowa City feel better about running Dr. Tom out of town?

[Newsbreaker]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

Think this makes anyone in Iowa City feel better about running Dr. Tom out of town?

[06panther10]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

Yeah I'm sure it was super easy for the Hawkeyes to realize that the coach that they let go 15 years ago was going to have a kid that could be successful at Drake and Providence. They really dropped the ball on that one...................

[ubuntuCAT]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

Keno coached at Iowa?

[Panther789]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

Yeah I'm sure it was super easy for the Hawkeyes to realize that the coach that they let go 15 years ago was going to have a kid that could be successful at Drake and Providence. They really dropped the ball on that one...................

I think when you take a look at the results Tom had, and look at the results Iowa has had since, its pretty obvious they dropped the ball on that one, regardless of Keno.

Additionally, it doesn't seem all that unlikely that Keno would be the head coach at Iowa today if Dr. Tom hadn't been run out of town.

[Panther789]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

I didn't think so.

[Newsbreaker]

Re: Looks Like Keno Is Gone From Drake

I think when you take a look at the results Tom had, and look at the results Iowa has had since, its pretty obvious they dropped the ball on that one, regardless of Keno.

Additionally, it doesn't seem all that unlikely that Keno would be the head coach at Iowa today if Dr. Tom hadn't been run out of town.

If if if if if CONCLUSION!