Selection Sunday Thread

[Durf73]

Re: Selection Sunday Thread

"your entire body of work" is the official message from the selection committee....

Is this a consistent from year to year? What happened to "how you finished" "your final 10 games" "the best teams at the end of the year" which they touted in previous years?
Maybe my memory is fading, but it sure seems like a moving target for mid-majors...The real message is "whoever we want for whatever reason"

Whoever we want for what ever reason we can use is the selection committees major line! If you heard the head of the selection committee talk on CBS he sounded like a typical DC politician!

I really don't care if Creighton got in or not, but when he kept saying we just look at teams not conferences and we don't even recognize the term mid major conference I just thought didn't they put that guy in jail friday!

[TheMacHouse]

Re: Selection Sunday Thread

Jake actually told me that Mpls requested NDSU.....?

Not sure how that works with host cities, but he told me that last Monday, when I asked about UNI's chance to be in Mpls.....

I wonder what the odds of Kansas vs NDSU in Minny is to sell tickets up there. Both teams will bring a ton of fans. I see no reason why Oklahoma was seeding and going to KC ahead of Kansas other than KC is sold out and Minny isn't. Kansas beat OU in Oklahoma (without Griffin of course) and won regular season title and OU is seeded ahead of KU.

[Newt99]

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Honestly of the 5 seeds, (Purdue, Utah, Illinois FSU), Purdue would be last one I would want to play.

That said, certainly a winnable game if we can handle the ball well. They really pressure in the half-court.

I definitely agree with this. Purdue is certainly beatable, but they are on a roll right now. I'd much rather see one of the other three 5 seeds.

As much as i dislike them, Creighton got screwed. Royally.

Arizona has NO business being in the tournament. None.

I swore at my TV when Arizona came up on the board. What a joke. Creighton or St. Mary's are both far more deserving,

[9YRPLAN]

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wisconsin= 4th place in #2 RPI conference with top 20 SOS. hardly a "joke".

CU had one halfway decent win and a whole bunch of bad losses.

[Coachdags]

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On a side note Iowa State played and beat Purdue last year in Vegas......

There will be a little extra scouting report available to help the Panthers.....

[jegbomb52]

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wisconsin= 4th place in #2 RPI conference with top 20 SOS. hardly a "joke".

CU had one halfway decent win and a whole bunch of bad losses.

Dual Fan!

Kaboom

[Newsbreaker]

Re: Selection Sunday Thread

Only 4 at large teams form the non 'power' conferences. Creighton never had a chance IMO, even if they lost in the MVC finals they were toast.

The NCAA needs to take over a game for every team each year. Force some of these teams to play midmajors in midmajor gyms. Basically a nation wide bracket buster.

The NCAA tournament isn't much fun without all the small schools IMO.

I'm not sure about that, but a few things are clear (especially after what the committee head said today).

First, they aren't going to try to understand the situation mid-majors are in.

Second, we have to go play BCS conference teams and beat them. Period. That's going to mean going on the road to do so. There is no other way to do it...and we ALL have to do it.

[JCPanthers]

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Well, I'm heading up to Minneapolis anyway.....out of protest. Any of our PN'ers have a suggestion of where to watch the game up there? Any gamewatches in the works? I realize it depends on when the Panthers will play, but we are definitely heading up to the twin cities this weekend.

[TheMacHouse]

Re: Selection Sunday Thread

I'm not sure about that, but a few things are clear (especially after what the committee head said today).

First, they aren't going to try to understand the situation mid-majors are in.

Second, we have to go play BCS conference teams and beat them. Period. That's going to mean going on the road to do so. There is no other way to do it...and we ALL have to do it.

There was a team that you could call a mid-major that played 4 BCS teams and won 2 of them (@Louisville, Arizona). I don't think this team would of made it but they had as many good victories as PSU with a better over schedule and were probably further down the list than PSU. You can look up the team if you want but doesn't really matter. Also Arizona's best win away from away was against rpi 180 but I forgot they are playing at home in NCAA.

I think the teams they bracket this year will make it harder for mid-majors to even schedule BCS teams because what is the incentive for BCS teams to do it if it might take a bid away when they can schedule low majors instead. With the MVC having 2 BB games on the schedule and the MVC/MWC game on the schedule how many open spots do they have left for BCS teams while still playing some home games to make $. Is it time to drop bracket busters since it doesn't seem to help the mid-majors and try to schedule BCS teams instead.

[jman2004]

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wisconsin= 4th place in #2 RPI conference with top 20 SOS. hardly a "joke".

CU had one halfway decent win and a whole bunch of bad losses.

Take a look at the incredible array of teams Wisconsin beat in their non-conference portion of their schedule: Long Beach St, Iona, San Diego, Wisc. Milwaukee, Virginia Tech, Idaho St, Wisc. Green Bay, and Coppin State. That's it. Outside of VT (RPI of 60), where exactly is their out of conference quality win?

"Whole bunch of bad losses." Really? Creighton had 7 losses total, on the season.

Wisconsin getting in is a "joke". That SOS ranking is inflated and means nothing. The reason it's as high as it is is because they faced Texas, Marquette, and UConn in their non-conference portion and LOST to all three. The best team in the Big Ten they beat was Illinois. They lost to Michigan St, lost to Purdue, lost to Minnesota twice, even lost to IOWA. They lost 6 games in a row in conference play for crying out loud.

They're 3-3 in their last 6 games. They're 4-9 against the top 50 RPI. They're 1-5 on the road against top 50 teams.

Creighton bet Dayton out of conference (RPI of 29), and Geogre Mason (RPI of 51). In fact, those two alone, are better than any of Wisconsin's out of conference victories and the best two non-conference teams Creighton played. Other than that, Creighton took care of business in conference, while Wisconsin did not. Creighton cannot help who they play in conference.

Wisconsin's resume does not look very attractive. They did NOT deserve to be in the field of 65 this year. Creighton got the short end . . .