Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

[Khan4Cats]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

I think Doug will have the opportunity to play right away. He will have familiarity with the system and the defensive concepts, though he will have to learn Jake's take on the philosohpy-it isn't that much different from Mac's.

I think Buss will need the redshirt year for strength and conditioning most, sounds like Rank should be able to step in as an inside banger pretty early as O'Rear's back-up and Doug will be the inside/out threat to compliment Jake Koch. Not sure how Lange fits in, and Pehl will provide an extra big body off the bench.

Loved the exposure UNI got last night, great effort by Doug to step into the spotlight of the other two "headliners".

[Scrambler]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

Barnes is good but I am not and have not been sold on him being an elite player and lottery pick.

you need to go out and watch some of his video when he is playing in his AAU league where everyone on the court is good and he can't be double and triple teamed everytime he gets the ball.... He has incredible talent!

Doug looked really good last night, one question tho...can he shoot? he didn't show much for range last night. For the most part the thing that has help out UNI alot is that the bigger guys on the court can shoot so teams have to come out and guard them. Which spreads the floor a lot.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

I only remember him taking one shot outside of 7 feet...a 3 pointer that was in and out, but looked good. I think I remember Jake saying that he has a very good outside shot and that is really his weapon as he will be tough to guard since he can play inside or outside.

[BCPanther]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

I think that Doug will be our first big off the bench next year. Remember he will have all summer with Jed Smith to fix diet and put on some muscle. He's a top 150 guy, he will be a four year contributer and years 3 and 4 could be really, really special...

[UnderParPanther]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

rewatching the game right now...saw some of it last night, but was at a christmas party and the sound was off.

Where are we at w/ scholarships for 2010 grads and 2011 grads? With the impressive play that little McD had last night it make me wonder if this might help some of our recruits that are "on the fence" pick UNI as they saw last night what they could be playing with at UNI.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

Have only seen the first quarter, but very excited so far.

[06panther10]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

btw, anyone know the odds of O'Rear coming back? When he announced that he was coming back, we all kind of thought that it sounded like this could be his last year. I hope not.

It would be fantastic if he would stay for his senior year.

['70 Grad]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

That's my question too. Haven't seen Austin Pehl in a game (since the exhibitions?). Wondering if Doug might be in the mix in a year or two.

[Panther Alum 83]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

Agreed. I'd be surprised if he redshirted. I'd look for O'Rear, A.Koch, McDermott, and Chip Rank to see alot of playing time, and depending on Pehl's improvement, he could get minutes too...

I could see Rank redshirting if Jake decides to go with Kerwin more at the '4'.

I think with J Koch, O'Rear and McDermott we'll be fine in the front court after A Koch and Egelseder graduate.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

ive seen barnes play w/ pulley and all-iowa. dont get me wrong, he is a great talent. but the NBA is a different level of athleticism and he is not there as a 2/3.

[06panther10]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

ive seen barnes play w/ pulley and all-iowa. dont get me wrong, he is a great talent. but the NBA is a different level of athleticism and he is not there as a 2/3.

well, he's not going to the NBA. He's going to the ACC.

[BCPanther]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

One or two years in a big time strength program and he will be just fine...

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

i realize that I am in the minority. but some places have him as the #1 pick in the 2011 draft. i just dont see him as an elite game changer at his position.

[UnderParPanther]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

just finished the game, and i'd like to personally thank doug for signing early w/ us this year as i think he'd be getting some extra looks after his performance last night.

lol @ barnes not being nba athletic....he's 17 yrs old with a great basketball iq and a work ethic 2nd to none. i dont remember watching too many of these feature games of top HS players that share the ball and get everyone involved in the offense like barnes AND McD do. they realize how much better they can be by getting their teammates shots..

i really think the other 3 starters for ames are very underrated. i would think their pg would end up playing D2 somewhere. He does an excellent job of D'ing up the opponents pg and can also shoot fairly well.

HS national rankings always make me lol, but i'd like to see the 23 teams that are supposedly better than ames.

[UnderParPanther]

Re: Ames vs. Waukegan (ESPN Thursday 8PM)

imo, barnes is the perfect nba 2 guard. good size, strength, quickness and a good (not great) outside shooter, but that will def improve as he moves on in his career. he can create his own shot easily.

while i'm not sure he'll be the #1 pick in the draft either, i think he has a very nice NBA career...kinda reminds me of arriza (sp?)