Just for your information

[joecooll6]

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I think the MWC wins the NCAA Challenge

MWC 4 NCAA bids
MVC 1 NCAA bid

I think that the MWC may be a little better, but not as much as the bids indicate. We have more parity. You had 4 teams rise to the top and separate themselves. Its what needs to happen for a mid-major league to get a bunch of bids. Parity is bad in the high mid-major world and we defined it this year. When the MVC had 4 bids a few years ago, it was because the top half of the league and the bottom half clearly separated themselves.

Not that it means a whole lot, but I'd take the Missouri States, SIUs and Bradleys over the Utahs, Wyomings and the Colorado States.

[Rebel_Fan]

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I'm trying to figure out how the MWC got the clout they do . . .

Here's the list of mediocre, BCS sized schools the 4 NCAA tourney MWC teams played (did not win all these either):

California, USC, Texas Tech, Arizona State (2x), Nebraska, Arizona (3x), Louisville

They also played:

Texas A&M (solid win), and Kansas St (95-80 loss)

SDSU's toughest non-conference opponents were St. Marys, Arizona, and Arizona State, and they lost 2 of the 3. They were BLOWN OUT by St. Marys.

Looking at their resumes, who exactly did the Mountain West teams beat, other than each other, to get all this attention?

It is simple, you schedule the best team you can beat and then you beat them. I'm suprised that the MVC doesn't understand that. MVC had 4 teams in 2006.


1. UNI NON-CONF SOS = 238
2. WSU NON-CONF SOS = 281
3. ISU NON-CONF SOS = 324
4. Indy St NON-CONF SOS = 116

1. NM NON-CONF SOS = 50
2. SD ST NON-CONF SOS = 123
3. BYU NON-CONF SOS = 196
4. UNLV NON-CONF SOS = 201

MWC OOC was 17th, MVC OOC was 27th. Might want to discuss with your AD and conference about actually scheduling better than exhibition type competition.

[Stuto]

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You guys just have no Idea. Teams like BYU and New Mexico get 17k plus fans for home games. Utah and SDSU probably 10k easy for big games. MVC can not compete with that.

[06panther10]

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You guys just have no Idea. Teams like BYU and New Mexico get 17k plus fans for home games. Utah and SDSU probably 10k easy for big games. MVC can not compete with that.

I'd like to see average attendances between the two conferences. I'd guess they'd be very similar.

[P-and-g-for-me-plz]

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Someone posted earlier this year that we did all we could with our schedule this year considering our agreements with the home one year and away the next...the games we did have a say in we went on the road! Don't know exactly how it was stated but it was somthing along these lines! Also it's hard for us to get top tier teams b/c of the fear of them losing...not exactly sure what the post said if someone could help me out with this!

[Casey'sitsallgood]

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You guys just have no Idea. Teams like BYU and New Mexico get 17k plus fans for home games. Utah and SDSU probably 10k easy for big games. MVC can not compete with that.

Not exactly sure what attendence has to do directly with a team's success or proving that one conference is better than another? Yes, I realize home court advantage helps but we went undefeated at home averaging what, 5,500 or so? Where are you going with the attendance comment?

[DWadle1983]

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It is simple, you schedule the best team you can beat and then you beat them. I'm suprised that the MVC doesn't understand that. MVC had 4 teams in 2006.


1. UNI NON-CONF SOS = 238
2. WSU NON-CONF SOS = 281
3. ISU NON-CONF SOS = 324
4. Indy St NON-CONF SOS = 116

1. NM NON-CONF SOS = 50
2. SD ST NON-CONF SOS = 123
3. BYU NON-CONF SOS = 196
4. UNLV NON-CONF SOS = 201

MWC OOC was 17th, MVC OOC was 27th. Might want to discuss with your AD and conference about actually scheduling better than exhibition type competition.

The MVC issue has been discussed on here and in the media. Take Illinois State which for the last two years scheduled weak teams even though they had veteran teams. It probably cost Illinois State an at-large bid last season.

For UNI losing to DePaul in the Virgin Islands and not playing Tennessee really hurt UNI's SOS. UNI plays Iowa and Iowa State every season, play one at home and one on the road each season this season Iowa in Cedar Falls and Iowa State in Ames, and the irony is that while UNI has become the best program in the state it's at the same time hurt RPI wise by the decline of these teams.

Iowa State was expected to be better and a possible NCAA Tournament team, so what I would have guessed to be a 50-60 RPI team ended up in the 120's, and Boston College had a disappointing season too so UNI scheduled okay it just didn't turn out as well as hoped.

[Beaker416]

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In regards to our SOS, we ended up scheduling games with Iowa and Iowa State, neither of which helped our SOS at all.

[Neighbor]

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Also... the Mountain West is NOT a Mid-Major contrary to popular opinion.

what is it then? minor major, minnie major or drum major???

[PantherHawk]

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Okay enough about numbers and what not, that is not gonna win you a game. I am very interested and seeing what Jake draws up for this game.

What does UNLV start? Height, position, that sort of thing.
If they just run a man to man press, that favors UNI big time, because we essentially have 4 guards out there who can handle the ball and bring it up the floor. Koch our 6-8 PF can handle the ball just as good as any guard, and if your man wants to try to guard him Full court, he will be fouled out before halftime. Also UNI's defense is what is going to win them this game.

Our offense has been sketchy down the stretch and we really haven't had a break-out game yet! I look for UNI to go back-door quite a bit, UNLV likes to play pressure defense, well that's fine, it will open the lane and also allow for a our bigs to go one-on-one. I like that match-up, and i think that is where the game is going to be won. If UNI can get the ball down low and Egs & Koch can establish themselves early, I like UNI's chances! IF we settle for the 3ball all night long, then it could get ugly!

[run&blade]

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I wasn't aware that UNLV was off probation from the Tarkanian years. Welcome back.

[casbern]

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I wasn't aware that UNLV was off probation from the Tarkanian years. Welcome back.

[95UNIGRAD]

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I've seen talk from Rebel fans comparing attendance, cheerleaders, and quality of opponents (though that's pretty weak, considering the MVC/MWC challenge results). Let's cut the chit-chat and talk basketball: Anyone who watched UNI put that boa constrictor defense on the teams they played on ESPN and on national TV this year knows that you're talking out of your you-know-what. I'm not happy with our seed either, but you know what? I'm over it. We could have received a "7" and ended up matched up against a school from a real conference like the ACC or Big 12. I think a website I read this morning summed it up nicely:

#8 UNLV vs. #9 Northern Iowa- This will be a contrast of two styles as UNLV will want to run the ball while Northern Iowa is a walk the ball up type of team. Northern Iowa has a gaudy record of 28-4, and they rely on a team effort in scoring while UNLV is lead by Tre'Von Willis and Chace Stanback, but are not as deep as UNI.

That's a matchup nightmare for UNLV. UNI does NOT allow transition buckets - you must work for everything. The fact that you're not a team that widely distributes your scoring will work against you as well. Every team we've played this year like that has quickly gotten frustrated and fallen apart, and you'll see that happen on Thursday.

[Luckycat]

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Honestly, the teams from Illinois State and Bradley look like trashy strippers. I'd say Missouri State.

Now you're talking Rebel fan language.

[Purrrrrfect]

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I love me some sugarbears!

Now just need a good sign idea for U.N.L.V