Panther Fans Demographics Question

[cydave]

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UNI students will go to IC for a weekend yes. However the only time I ever hear of UNI students going to Ames is for Veishea. Ive noticed lately though that the weekends are getting busier and more students are staying in town now than they did in the past. IC is a good time to party not going to lie, thats why they are like the 12th best party school according to Princeton or whatever review puts that stat out

Playboy. And yes, they are usually considered a top 10 party school.

[Panther78]

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There are a lot of dual Iowa/UNI fans. Most people hate Iowa State. I think generally, the state likes to see UNI do well and pulls for us.

One thing that Hawkeye fans and Panther fans have in common- neither one went to Iowa. I'm a Panther fan and I hate the Hawks.

[run&blade]

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Few UNI only fans IMO, although I am one. Like to see Iowa and ISU do well because it makes for better TV but I don't lose any sleep if they lose.

I do think Iowa has the best chance to be a true basketball power in the country because of the money the Big Ten Network pulls and the Doctor/Lawyer alumni base. I wish Iowa would open the vault for Bruce Pearl and play wide open high octane basketball. It would be fun to watch. Don't think UNI would be wise to try that style because they are never going to pull that kind of athlete.

I have no idea why anybody would be a fan of ISU unless they went to school there. Their football is really not much better then UNI yet it cost a lot more money for tickets and they get their butt kicked in 24/7. Seriously I go to an ISU game every once in a while (for free) and it is like watch sheep get slaughtered, I wouldn't pay $5 to watch it. They are the Northwestern of the Big XII, without the success. For basketball to be good at ISU IMO they need to get a coach on the bleeding edge of dirty. I think Wayne Morgan should have been given more time. Mac will never win there because he is too clean and too determined to play meatgrinder basketball. Big XII talent will just go somewhere else, which is why the exodus from ISU is as predictable as robins coming in the spring.

I think most casual Iowa/ISU fans also like to see UNI do well, because UNI is no threat for recruits. UNI is family entertainment, the tickets are not expensive and the environment is very fan friendly. Football games the let the fans on the field after games and you can bring your own football and play on the field or get player autographs. I love UNI football , it is like arena football on steroids.

[UNIMIS2001]

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UNI only. Grew up a Hawkeye, until I came to my senses and now I cannot stand the hawks or clones.

[cydave]

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Few UNI only fans IMO, although I am one. Like to see Iowa and ISU do well because it makes for better TV but I don't lose any sleep if they lose.

I do think Iowa has the best chance to be a true basketball power in the country because of the money the Big Ten Network pulls and the Doctor/Lawyer alumni base. I wish Iowa would open the vault for Bruce Pearl and play wide open high octane basketball. It would be fun to watch. Don't think UNI would be wise to try that style because they are never going to pull that kind of athlete.

I have no idea why anybody would be a fan of ISU unless they went to school there. Their football is really not much better then UNI yet it cost a lot more money for tickets and they get their butt kicked in 24/7. Seriously I go to an ISU game every once in a while (for free) and it is like watch sheep get slaughtered, I wouldn't pay $5 to watch it. They are the Northwestern of the Big XII, without the success. For basketball to be good at ISU IMO they need to get a coach on the bleeding edge of dirty. I think Wayne Morgan should have been given more time. Mac will never win there because he is too clean and too determined to play meatgrinder basketball. Big XII talent will just go somewhere else, which is why the exodus from ISU is as predictable as robins coming in the spring.

I think most casual Iowa/ISU fans also like to see UNI do well, because UNI is no threat for recruits. UNI is family entertainment, the tickets are not expensive and the environment is very fan friendly. Football games the let the fans on the field after games and you can bring your own football and play on the field or get player autographs. I love UNI football , it is like arena football on steroids.

That's a pretty bold statement about ISU athletics. Of course the last 3ish years have been bad, not counting last years, but the 2 with chizik and Mac's last year was bad. Other than that, it was actually somewhat respectable in the Big 12. Making bowl games and contending for the North Title. Things are definitely looking up for the ISU program, not sure if you watched any ISU games last year, but we actually won games and won a bowl game. The schedule this coming year is brutal but we have another shot at a bowl game.
I'd expect a fairly big boost in season tickets this year. Just bc we aren't making BCS bowls or contending for a national title, doesn't mean we aren't going to have fans.

And as far as basketball being good at ISU, I'm not sure how long you've been paying attention to ISU MBB, but we were good before Mac got there. Orr, Floyd, Eustachy, and Morgan all had success at ISU. If it wasn't for this string of 4 down years, we'd probably still be a top 4-6 team in the Big 12. Remember, ISU is the last school in the state of Iowa having to win an NCAA tourney game. (pending on what UNI does this year). Mac needs to get out, before he runs this program into the ground farther than it already is.

[paMANther]

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And as far as basketball being good at ISU, I'm not sure how long you've been paying attention to ISU MBB, but we were good before Mac got there. Orr, Floyd, Eustachy, and Morgan all had success at ISU. If it wasn't for this string of 4 down years, we'd probably still be a top 4-6 team in the Big 12. Remember, ISU is the last school in the state of Iowa having to win an NCAA tourney game. (pending on what UNI does this year). Mac needs to get out, before he runs this program into the ground farther than it already is.

Wasn't ISU a 2 seed one year

To be fair I am a dual fan of UNI and Iowa but when the two teams play each other its all purple and gold. This year I was even kicked out a bar in IC when we played football down there because UNI was kicking there ass but whatever dont really see no problem with it.

[cydave]

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Wasn't ISU a 2 seed one year

To be fair I am a dual fan of UNI and Iowa but when the two teams play each other its all purple and gold. This year I was even kicked out a bar in IC when we played football down there because UNI was kicking there ass but whatever dont really see no problem with it.

Well, if we go back in the last 10 years.
2000 - Big 12 regular season and tournament champions. 2 seed in the dance and elite 8 appearance. Highest national ranking at #6.
2001 - Big 12 regular season and tournament champions. 2 seed in the dance... will leave it at that. Stupid Hampton. Highest national ranking at #6.
2004 - NIT final four appearance.
2005 - NCAA 2nd round appearance.

Then Mac arrives in 2006 and it all goes downhill from there...
Not counting the time when Mac was here, I'd say that was a fairly successful half decade in basketball.
I'll save you the reading and myself the typing by not typing the statistics from the 90's, but in short: It was pretty good as well.

[run&blade]

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Contending for the Big XII North Title in football sounds good to the casual fan. Truth be told, when ISU contented for the Big XII North Title the Big XII North was a complete joke, at that time the Big XII North was worse then the MAAC. IMO the Big XII North Champion those years wouldn't have won the I-AA title. Paul Rhodes might be able to put in the spread and coach them up like Ferentz but time will tell.

Basketball at ISU was good under Orr, Floyd, and Eustachy. The key was they were willing to push the edge as far as NCAA rules/player eligibility. I still remember Kenny Pratt and company, tell me they went to class without laughing. I recall the stories of Eustachy dropping F-bombs on the AD and basically doing whatever the hell he wanted. I doubt Fizer and Tinsely were exactly on the deans list. McDermott isn't going to do that and I don't think Pollard will even hire a guy that might. IMO Boy Scout meatgrinder basketball is a losing formula in the Big XII. Big XII recruits think they can play in the NBA someday, they know they are not going to get there setting 30 picks and running 500 sets under McDermott, that is why they all leave. You will never sniff the top half of the Big XII with that formula.