Syracuse

[swarthmore]

Re: Syracuse

I did not think it was too bad- far more good things than bad against such a good team.
Clean up the shot selection a little, and this team will fight for the a bid.

[olivestreet95]

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This next line is what the fan base looks like right now....and it's embarrassing to read....


OMGZ WE SUCKZ, THE SEAZONZ IS OVERZ...WE ARE GARBAGE....BLAH BLAH BLAH.



It was one game, against one of the most talented teams in the nation. It was our first game with a pretty much all new line up/style of play.


Let's not give up because of the FIRST FREAKING GAME OF THE SEASON.


I'm honestly ashamed to read some of the stuff here.

UNI83,

not sure if I take these posts the same way you do but I think we as a fan base are starting to expect better play each and every year. Especially after coming off of the high of last year. I know I was super excited all week to get home and watch my first panther basketball game of the year! With that being said the first half got me and I am assuming a lot of others very excited only to watch the wheels come off the wagon in the second half. We all know the season is long but I think the overall expectations on this team are growing and I personally expected a better effort out of our team.....

GO PANTHERS!

[ProwlingPanther]

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uni83,

not sure if i take these posts the same way you do but i think we as a fan base are starting to expect better play each and every year. Especially after coming off of the high of last year. I know i was super excited all week to get home and watch my first panther basketball game of the year! With that being said the first half got me and i am assuming a lot of others very excited only to watch the wheels come off the wagon in the second half. We all know the season is long but i think the overall expectations on this team are growing and i personally expected a better effort out of our team.....

Go panthers!

..............................+1

[TheGrowl]

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After losing to DePaul last year at this time, we all thought the ship was sinking, right?

Guys...think about it...we just lost to Syracuse at their place...in front of the population of Cedar Falls. Our program has come so far that we are now upset when we lose to anyone. And dammit, that's the way it should be. Kind of makes ya proud, doesn't it? (Someone can correct me, but didn't we miss about every 3 against DePaul as well?)

BRING BACK THE CHOPS!

[96' Alum]

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We just aren't even close right now... We need to work. I see us as being a good team in the future... Just not this year. I don't mean to say that it's over just because of this game, but i think that this year is a rebuilding year after losing the main three. We have a good foundation, but we just aren't there yet.

Are you kidding? Wow

This team just played a top ten team, on their home floor. It is NOT the time to throw in the towel. We have players assuming new roles, and are breaking new players. Did you really think that we could lose the three kids that we did, and not miss a beat?

If that is the case, then you should probably just not watch anymore this year. Give your tickets to a fan, since this season is already over.

What an absolutely ridiculous post.

[96' Alum]

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This next line is what the fan base looks like right now....and it's embarrassing to read....


OMGZ WE SUCKZ, THE SEAZONZ IS OVERZ...WE ARE GARBAGE....BLAH BLAH BLAH.



Jesus Christ, it was one game, against one of the most talented teams in the nation. It was our first game with a pretty much all new line up/style of play.


Let's not give up because of the FIRST FREAKING GAME OF THE SEASON.


I'm honestly ashamed to read some of the stuff here.

Amen!

It is everyone's right to decide if they agree or disagree with what Jake does. But basing their criticisms on games against Michigan State, and then the following year against Syracuse shows a real lack of intelligence.

Of course they are all probably hawk fans, and that is how that group of "people" roll

[96' Alum]

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UNI83,

not sure if I take these posts the same way you do but I think we as a fan base are starting to expect better play each and every year. Especially after coming off of the high of last year. I know I was super excited all week to get home and watch my first panther basketball game of the year! With that being said the first half got me and I am assuming a lot of others very excited only to watch the wheels come off the wagon in the second half. We all know the season is long but I think the overall expectations on this team are growing and I personally expected a better effort out of our team.....

GO PANTHERS!

Yay, you were excited.

But you fail to mention that this is a new team. There are new players, and there are new roles for returning players.

If this game had happened against a bad team, your argument would hold more water as well. BUT this team is ranked 10th preseason, and Boeheim has won a lot of ****ing games, so he apparently has shown that he knows what he is doing.

It was ALWAYS going to take some time for this group. Being a reactionary shill does NOONE any good.

If these are still concerns when MVC time comes around, then you can act like a whiny baby, there will be at least a sample to judge by then.

[olivestreet95]

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Yay, you were excited.

But you fail to mention that this is a new team. There are new players, and there are new roles for returning players.

If this game had happened against a bad team, your argument would hold more water as well. BUT this team is ranked 10th preseason, and Boeheim has won a lot of ****ing games, so he apparently has shown that he knows what he is doing.

It was ALWAYS going to take some time for this group. Being a reactionary shill does NOONE any good.

If these are still concerns when MVC time comes around, then you can act like a whiny baby, there will be at least a sample to judge by then.

WTF?

When and where did I act like a whiny baby???? Yes I was excited for tonights game! Who wasn't? Second of all during the first half of the game we were playing UNI basketball at our pace just not making shots....which gave me hope for the second half. Who cares how many ****ing games Boeheim has won, who *****ing cares what they are ranked preseason if we took your approach and attitude towards this game/team then maybe we should have just given up against Kansas last year.....fact of the matter is we did not play our style of ball in the second half the wheels came off and we did not play with a level of intensity that we have grown to appreciate with this team.....reactionary shill? give me a break bro......

[Khan4Cats]

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I think a better comparison than the DePaul game last year would be the Marquette game two years ago. A more athletic team was able to pull away from us early in the year because we couldn't get anything going offensively. I'm not throwing this season out on one game, certainly not to a pre-season top-15 team that some experts think will challenge for the Big East title.

Biggest negative: we have to shoot better. 6-33 is not going to cut it, sub 50% from FT (1st half and through much of the game) Jake isn't going to harp on it, it just has to get better.

Positive: We hung with a longer, taller, more athletic team on the boards. Kept them off the offensive glass for the most part-and had we made shots, would have probably won the battle overall.

Outcome: Nothing like going up against a quality opponent early to get any kinks in the armor exposed quickly so that they can be addressed. The coaching staff now has game film to work with, the younger players have some game action under their belts, and we can focus on the rest of the year.

I almost feel sorry for Coe.

[UnderParPanther]

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interesting game to say the least tonight! first half mirrored many of UNI games and 2nd half was an offensive struggle coupled w/ SYR making almost everything they threw up.

i don't pay any attention to pre-season rankings as i think they are a joke, but this is a very athletic SYR team that should win quite a few games this year. it will be interesting to see where they are ranked at the end of january (top 10 i hope!).

off the top my head:

likes:

kzadzo w/ 0 turnovers
AJ looked great coming off the bench
pehl played decent for a first game on the road against good big men
rank is going to be special

dislikes:

kwadzo 0-8 from 3
koch looked out of it for most of the game
o'rear in the starting lineup and no chops


not sure who i'd start over o'rear, but his key asset is coming off the bench and firing up the team. he picked up 2 cheap fouls early and had to sit the rest of the half.

i'm not real surprised about our 3pt shooting...if you havn't shot in a dome before (referring to panthernation, not our team) the lack of depth perception makes it really tough and was the only reason why i was upset w/ moving out of the UNI dome as its a big homecourt advantage IMO.

our defense is solid again, which is no surprise really, but i liked what pehl did down low and thought rank did a nice job as well.

the way SYR shot the ball in the 2nd half i don't think it woulda mattered how we played, unless we shot even better than they did. 70% from 3 in the 2nd half and ~60% from the field in the 2nd half is going to win almost every game that is close going into the 2nd half.



i didnt read any of the whiny posts to see if people were jumping ship already, but wtf people...i can sorta understand the ship jumping last year when we lost to depaul as they were supposed to be a really bad team and it was a neutral floor, but this was a pretty good syracuse team playing at home where they don't loose often....suck it up and be there for coe on tuesday!!

[Trapped in California]

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Overall, the UNI defense looked solid. Unfortunately east coast crew was calling a tight game (both ways).

Random thoughts

- Give rank a break on his first game (that counts) as a college player in the Carrier Dome. That has to have a bit of nerves attached.

- AJ & Kwazdo looked great when penetrating with the pull up jumpers. Don't know why those stopped.

- Fab Melo should be red-shirted. He is gonna have a long year.

- Orangemen shot almost 50% from the field and 3 point line. It's not like those were uncontested shots. They found the grove - UNI found the iron.

- UNI should have out rebounded - rebounding is always a shortcoming of a zone defense.

- I have concerns that the free throw shooting is not going to be there like the last couple years. The stat that was repeated last year was how we made more FT than our opponents attempted.

[CyCarp]

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I know Jake takes pride in the D (which is good), but we need a lot of work on our O. This was a good team, and a ton of things can be learned by this game. I don't know about you guys, but I think Jake is a damn good coach and will do everything he can to make sure we take tremendous strides and improve our game all around. Sure we looked bad, but the last couple of years we seem to be slow starters, I'm sure Jake will get these guys where they need to be.

[06panther10]

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No real surprises in this game if you ask me.

We knew coming in, that the offense was probably going to struggle early season. And that was certainly the case tonight. We knew that if we don't hit our outside jumpers, especially against a zone, we are going to struggle. And that was also the case tonight.

We also knew that size could be an issue for us, and that was certainly the case tonight. Syracuse's size bothered us greatly IMO. We had NO inside presence at all, and generally struggled to even pass the ball into the paint over top of SU's length.

The defense could have been a bit better, but to their credit SU was hitting everything in the second half, including contested 3's. Our offense will only get better. We are not going to shoot this bad every night. Building this team is a process, and we have to be patient with that process.

We'll be fine. We just gained some invaluable experience for our young guys, namely Pehl and Rank. And Koch still has to learn his new role, and become comfortable down low, and in the starting lineup in general. And that will come with time. This was a good measuring stick game so show where we are as a team. Now we know what we have, and what we need to work on.

[9YRPLAN]

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If we can only get the shots that we took tonight, I wouldn't count on the percentage improving.

I know we were playing the toughest zone in the country, our guards are NOT pure shooters. We cannot be chucking up 3's at that rate. No one even tried to probe the zone consistently which is critical. Sonnen did NOTHING on offense.

[bigticket]

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wow, some of you are unreal....

different year different squad... good kids and they'll play hard, but if you thought they'd stick within 10 against Cuse for the season opener at their place.....