Up Next: Illinois State

[TommyT]

Re: Up Next: Illinois State

If it's this close on the road against the worst team in the league, I doubt we will be able to go into Springfield, Omaha, Des Moines, Evansville and Wichita and pull out wins. Truthfully, I think we get 1 more win on the road. As for our home court, we HAVE TO win all but one of those games. I would love to see us get to 20 wins this year, but I think we may come up just short.

PS - Pehl would be better with consistent playing time. Did he even play against Evansville? And 7 minutes against Illinois State is not enough to get him into the flow. I think his playing time high is like 15 minutes this year. Big guys take a lot longer to get comfortable in games than guards and sometimes you have to keep feeding the beast in order to get them going. I'm not saying he will be amazing with more playing time, I just think the output will be more solid on both ends of the court.

[Panther-Sheik]

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To me Pehl looks like a kid with a lot of upside and athleticism and little to no confidence. When you have no confidence you tend to try to play perfectly, with no mistakes. Usually the exact opposite happens and you make tons of mistakes. You can see that he is "thinking" out there and not "reacting" and just playing basketball. I see the same thing with Rank right now. Saw the same thing with Adam Koch as a freshman and sophmore (although less). I love Pehl's upside and hope he can get comfortable in his own skin. We could have some good stuff from him and Rank down the road, but only if, for better or for worse, they get some decent playing time now.

[ubuntuCAT]

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Yeah, I was trying to figure out how I was getting sound from my blu-ray player and my xbox360 using only my HDMI if they are "video only".


Seriously, what kind of "HDMI" cables was the original HDMI poster buying/talking about?

Pretty sure all HDMI cables do video and audio.

Some devices only pass through the video though. The original poster's computer video card may only put out video and not audio.

[williebat]

Re: Up Next: Illinois State

If it's this close on the road against the worst team in the league, I doubt we will be able to go into Springfield, Omaha, Des Moines, Evansville and Wichita and pull out wins. Truthfully, I think we get 1 more win on the road. As for our home court, we HAVE TO win all but one of those games. I would love to see us get to 20 wins this year, but I think we may come up just short.

PS - Pehl would be better with consistent playing time. Did he even play against Evansville? And 7 minutes against Illinois State is not enough to get him into the flow. I think his playing time high is like 15 minutes this year. Big guys take a lot longer to get comfortable in games than guards and sometimes you have to keep feeding the beast in order to get them going. I'm not saying he will be amazing with more playing time, I just think the output will be more solid on both ends of the court.

I disagree I think we can win any game we play. It seems to me the young guys right now are playing up to the level of the competition. Esp Koch and sonnen. Look at KA he is getting it done most games. The younger guy seem to feed off the energy of the other team. That usually means inconsistency.

I also wonder if we are still hungover from last year and having a hard time staying motivated. I think the jays and shockers and bears provide big time big game motivation. I expect a win. Oh and we should be motivated against the salukis and get the win.

As far a Pehl goes I agree. I liked that hook shot last night in the first part of the game. Looked good he had position and took a high percentage shot. He missed it but If he could attempt that shot more we would be in better shape. I say he should look for that 2-3 foot hook shot every chance he gets to play and shoot it. I would rather he go 0 for 4 that 0 for 0.

He is going to be better than I had feared before the season!!

Go panthers

[Marc Wigim]

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The thing I learned last night is that we're a team that relies on two sophomores for the majority of our offense. We're going to have really bad offensive nights as a result, but if we can keep playing the kind of defense we have we'll be in any game we play at the end of the season. I see a lot of potential in Koch II and AJ to be the best tandem in the league next season, so they have to learn through hard knocks right now.

The bottom line for me is that I'll take this team at 12-6 right now. It's actually a little better than I thought we'd be.

[BCPanther]

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I agree Marc.

I think we get to 12-6, win our BracketBuster game against what should be a decent opponent.

That puts us at 22-9 headed for St. Louis and, worst case scenario, an NIT bid, maybe with a home game.

There is something to be said for a program that wins. Jake has developed a culture where winning is expected and this team will step up!!!

[06panther10]

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Road wins in the valley are like found money, so you just take them any way that you can get them. Good win. Just have to keep getting better.

[SpudWebb]

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The thing I learned last night is that we're a team that relies on two sophomores for the majority of our offense. We're going to have really bad offensive nights as a result, but if we can keep playing the kind of defense we have we'll be in any game we play at the end of the season. I see a lot of potential in Koch II and AJ to be the best tandem in the league next season, so they have to learn through hard knocks right now.

The bottom line for me is that I'll take this team at 12-6 right now. It's actually a little better than I thought we'd be.

Marc- You're spot on, in my opinion . . . & that brings me to a criticism of having Pehl in the game. When we have to play the kind of defense we need to (especially on those nights when our offense is poor), we cannot afford to have Pehl in there. He only plays defense with his hands & half the time looks lost on D.

I hate to poke at the kid, as he's still young, but that's what I see out there. I think he can (& has to) improve to make us effective.

[Panther-Sheik]

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Marc- You're spot on, in my opinion . . . & that brings me to a criticism of having Pehl in the game. When we have to play the kind of defense we need to (especially on those nights when our offense is poor), we cannot afford to have Pehl in there. He only plays defense with his hands & half the time looks lost on D.

I hate to poke at the kid, as he's still young, but that's what I see out there. I think he can (& has to) improve to make us effective.

The question is: Do you want him cutting his "game-teeth" next year as a Junior or this year as a Soph? We are taking our lumps this year and it isn't due to Pehl. Not throwing away this year by any means, but next year has potential to be a nice improvement over this year.

[williebat]

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The thing I learned last night is that we're a team that relies on two sophomores for the majority of our offense. We're going to have really bad offensive nights as a result, but if we can keep playing the kind of defense we have we'll be in any game we play at the end of the season. I see a lot of potential in Koch II and AJ to be the best tandem in the league next season, so they have to learn through hard knocks right now.

The bottom line for me is that I'll take this team at 12-6 right now. It's actually a little better than I thought we'd be.

I agree for the most part but KA is our leading scorer. So truth be told without KA we are 6-12 not 12-6. Kid can play. Koch barely averages more points per game than Moran.

I you think about it our scoring is pretty evenly divided among those three and AJ (1 senior, 1 Junior, 2 soph)

Our problem is lucas is the only one in the post and needs help. At times he looks to short. he is a stud and is amazing he can play with guys much bigger than him. But his lack of height inside bytes him in the ass sometimes as witnessed by his shots off the bottom of the rim. I wish they would try him and Koch inside and AJ, KA, and Moran outside. Camp him inside and get Luke more chances at a bucket.

[achrist70]

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Yes we are 12-6 which isn't all that bad, the problem is that as a fan base we know that we a painfully close to being 14-4 with two other losses being to teams that I believe most of us thought we thought would be certain wins at the beginning of the season in Iowa and Milwaukee, I think what actually makes it worse is that we have shown flashes of very good things. Then there was ISU Blue game where everything just seemed to implode. What we have is a Bi Polar basketball team.

[TommyT]

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I agree for the most part but KA is our leading scorer. So truth be told without KA we are 6-12 not 12-6. Kid can play. Koch barely averages more points per game than Moran.

I you think about it our scoring is pretty evenly divided among those three and AJ (1 senior, 1 Junior, 2 soph)

Our problem is lucas is the only one in the post and needs help. At times he looks to short. he is a stud and is amazing he can play with guys much bigger than him. But his lack of height inside bytes him in the ass sometimes as witnessed by his shots off the bottom of the rim. I wish they would try him and Koch inside and AJ, KA, and Moran outside. Camp him inside and get Luke more chances at a bucket.

KA is our leading scorer because KA takes the most shots.

As for having Koch posting up, he doesn't have to do it all at once. But trying some more sets where he goes one-on-one in the post would help immensely. Even if it's just to pass it in and pass it out; it gets the defense moving and then good things happen for us.

[Spathicle]

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One thing that can't be discounted is the Bullseye we have on our backs. I think we're getting everyone in the valley's best games right now because we've done work the last two years.

I think JK is getting better and better. AJ and KA are as solid as we can ask for. I see only upside going forward. Salukis in the McLoud? We'll win by 20

[CyCarp]

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One thing that can't be discounted is the Bullseye we have on our backs. I think we're getting everyone in the valley's best games right now because we've done work the last two years.

I think JK is getting better and better. AJ and KA are as solid as we can ask for. I see only upside going forward. Salukis in the McLoud? We'll win by 20

Koch just needs to be consistent. I'd like to see AJ take over some more games where others struggle. KA just needs to stay under control and play his game. And I'll bet you anything you want UNI doesn't beat S Illi by 20...

[FOTY]

Re: Up Next: Illinois State

We'll win by 20

With our style of play, we don't beat anyone by 20.