Top 10 returning guards to the Valley next season

[electricmayhem]

Good filler for the offseason... anyone rank this differently?

http://www.examiner.com/missouri-valley-basketball-in-national/top-10-returning-guards-special-mentions

[panther-state]

Re: Top 10 returning guards to the Valley next season

AJ over Rayvonte Rice. Otherwise it's a solid list. Odum and Ryan certainly are 1-2. Johnny could maybe be a bit higher but with Kwadzo running the show he easily over shadowed our other guards. With Johnny and AJ in control this next season their stats (which is basically what this guy based this list off of exclusively) will jump. I could see AJ being the MVC PoY like Kwadzo would've been if the O'Rear injury hadnt derailed things.

[electricmayhem]

Re: Top 10 returning guards to the Valley next season

With Odum being #1, I disagree that it was put together solely on stats. Odum didn't have impressive numbers, but his defense and leadership sent him to the top.

AJ had a great season, but I don't think he was the all-around threat that Rice was.

[UNI83]

Re: Top 10 returning guards to the Valley next season

Odom is getting a whole lot of credit for a three day run that he would otherwise not have.

I don't disagree with him being a top 3-5 guy, but Colt Ryan and AY are both a head of him.

[achrist70]

Re: Top 10 returning guards to the Valley next season

Odom is getting a whole lot of credit for a three day run that he would otherwise not have.

I don't disagree with him being a top 3-5 guy, but Colt Ryan and AY are both a head of him.

While I don't disagree that the 3 day run did a lot for this poll when it comes to Odom, if you really look at what his numbers were he was pretty darn good all year, it is just that Indiana State really flew under that radar all year. I do think that Colt Ryan is still the best guard in the league, he has to do so much for Evansville just so the are able to be competitive in the Valley. Young I do think is the third out of this group, but he did kill us last year. The plus minus when he was in the game had to be crazy, I know at Omaha it was something like +40 for Creighton when he was in the game.

I will still take Johnny Moran, Marc Sonnen, and ANTHONY JAMES though, sounds like a nice backcourt to me.

[electricmayhem]

Re: Top 10 returning guards to the Valley next season

While I don't disagree that the 3 day run did a lot for this poll when it comes to Odom, if you really look at what his numbers were he was pretty darn good all year, it is just that Indiana State really flew under that radar all year. I do think that Colt Ryan is still the best guard in the league, he has to do so much for Evansville just so the are able to be competitive in the Valley. Young I do think is the third out of this group, but he did kill us last year. The plus minus when he was in the game had to be crazy, I know at Omaha it was something like +40 for Creighton when he was in the game.

I will still take Johnny Moran, Marc Sonnen, and ANTHONY JAMES though, sounds like a nice backcourt to me.

AY's +/- for the season was +177, 12th best in the conference.

[achrist70]

Re: Top 10 returning guards to the Valley next season

AY's +/- for the season was +177, 12th best in the conference.

What was it versus us, and who had the best?

[jnutt]

Re: Top 10 returning guards to the Valley next season

Odum absolutely deserves the #1 slot. He played out of his mind in the tourney and solid all year. I think AJ should be head of Rice too. Nobody on Drake impressses me all that much

[electricmayhem]

Re: Top 10 returning guards to the Valley next season

What was it versus us, and who had the best?

I don't have the individual game +/-, but the best in the league, believe it or not, was David Kyles from WSU at +269.