Up Next: Iowa State

[BryceC]

Re: Up Next: Iowa State

Let's start with a list of their top high school recruits who've gone on to great careers at ISU...

What do you mean by great careers? I'd consider Jake Sullivan, Will Blalock, Curtis Stinson, Rahshon Clark, Craig Brackins, and Diante Garrett to have had great careers off the top of my head. Granted, ISU baskeball over the last 10 seasons has been pretty lean and especially over the last five.

I came by to congratulate you guys for the win. With about 12 minutes left I knew without a doubt in my mind we would lose. I haven't been to CF yet because I'm sure it's a stupidfest that is just painful. IMO this is a team that needs to shoot 40% from 3 to beat any team with a pulse because we don't have anybody who can drive and kick, or drive and finish... well let me just say drive in general. Plus, there are some real defensive deficiences right now, which don't necessarily surprise me, because these guys haven't played that long together. Couple that with the fact that Ejim is going through a major sophomore slump and Allen just is playing like garbage and this team is going to struggle in the Big 12.

Regardless, it was an extremely frustrating game to watch, puncuated by poor shooting percentages, which is exactly what I have come to expect from playing UNI. I have said it many times, including last year on here, I freaking hate losing to you guys, I borderline hate freaking playing you guys. The discipline your teams play with infuriates me to watch because ISU never matches it and thus every game ISU plays against you guys is a sloppy grindfest that is just no fun to watch. Granted, if they won I'd find some joy in it.

I will also say I think Hoiberg got outcoached, I absolutely hated their defensive gameplan. Just dispised it. Also, there are some fundamental problems with this roster. I am glad Hoiberg took on the transfers, because it did improve the talent level to the point where we will be able to compete with a lot of teams if we hit our threes. If he didn't do this, we'd be looking at an Iowa type season right now. But I would be lying if I already wasn't looking forward to seeing Lucious and Naz Long next year. We don't have a single guy on this team with a point guard mentality, and as much as I like Scotty, as we saw yesterday he needs to be running off screens. He is excellent in that role and a liability in the role the coaches have for him now.

[ubuntuCAT]

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Tuttle was a friggin animal, Sonnen has no fear, and Morrison is the new Brooks McKowen. Oh and Jacobson is hilarious in the post game interview. Cut off Morrison and then fielded a stupid question with grace. Both will be here when my slow ass internet actually lets me load my videos. Enjoy!

http://www.iowasportsmonster.com/hea...enutthouse.php

love the content but this sight is in serious need of a graphics designer. you can't even read the links on the top.

[BryceC]

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This is a huge resume booster for us. Iowa State is going to get it together and knock off some good teams in the Big 12 this year.

I'd like to believe you, but sadly, I don't.

[Khan4Cats]

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I liked the end of the game when Tuttle got the ball in the lane behind ISU's defense.

Coulda thrown a dunk in the closing seconds to put on an exclamation point.

Just turned toward the UNI bench and covered up the ball.

No need to celebrate or do something flashy. Just act like you thought you were going to win. That's when you see the coach show up in the players.

Had ISU been in that spot, they woulda thrown it down and the students probably would've stormed the court. "Oh my god...I can't believe we actually won a friggin game against a team with a winning record!!"

I mentioned this on another thread. Tuttle finished with 9 points and 12 boards. That lay-up/dunk could have gotten him to a second straight double-double, both against "BcS" competition. And what does he do?

Kid's going to be a great PANTHER!

[jnutt]

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love the content but this sight is in serious need of a graphics designer. you can't even read the links on the top.

yeah, preaching to the choir here. only one that really posts on the site anyway.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Dave...if you're going to come on a message board called "Panther Nation" with a "CyDave" username on the night UNI beats ISU for the 5th time in 6 years, you're going to hear some smack.

100% correct. If you come here, be prepared to bow to your masters (or something like that).

[Born-a-Panther]

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If basketball were a series of 1-on-1 games then ISU would probably beat UNI just about every time. But it isn't, it is a team game. And UNI plays as a team as well as anyone in the country. They play the most beautiful team defense I have ever seen, and on offense can squeak it out with good team play. What UNI does is not "garbage", it is playing the game the RIGHT way and playing it the way it is meant to be played. There is a reason UNI regularly beats teams that have individuals that have more pure talent than our players, there is a reason we compete in almost all of our game regardless of opponent, and there is a reason we have been so consistent and won at least 18 games for eight straight seasons: we have a plan, and we play as a TEAM. What we do isn't garbage, it is a work of art (especially on defense). Watching five guys (really 10 + guys the way we work our bench) come together as a unit and consistently outplay groups of individuals that are more physically gifted than them is a beautiful thing to see and its why its great being a Panther. What ISU does is closer to garbage than what the Panthers do.

Beautiful post. Very well said.

[UNI Fight]

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Anyone else notice how every time Austin Pehl came into the game ISU could not answer for him? Royce White couldn't budge him. He got down low and stayed there. I can't wait for him to get back to 100%. UNI went on a scoring run everytime he checked into the game.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Beautiful post. Very well said.

Totally agree. It's hilarious that some people can't see this.

[r54uni]

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Anyone else notice how every time Austin Pehl came into the game ISU could not answer for him? Royce White couldn't budge him. He got down low and stayed there. I can't wait for him to get back to 100%. UNI went on a scoring run everytime he checked into the game.

He did play well but lets not get too excited. I need to see another move besides the baby hook and some consistent good games before I jump on that bandwagon. Taking nothing away from what he did tonight but I not quite buying just yet.

[MeOW!]

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Anyone else notice how every time Austin Pehl came into the game ISU could not answer for him? Royce White couldn't budge him. He got down low and stayed there. I can't wait for him to get back to 100%. UNI went on a scoring run everytime he checked into the game.

By the way was Pehl's 8 points a career high last night?

[BryceC]

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If basketball were a series of 1-on-1 games then ISU would probably beat UNI just about every time.

I disagree with you here. ISU has no 1-on-1 players, and that's one reason why we couldn't get anything consistent on offense. Scott Christopherson is one of the primary ballhandlers on this team and when the big guy would hedge on screens he'd get pushed out to the half court line. Allen does not have a solid enough handle to get into the lane and finish and he doesn't have the court vision to make the good pass when he gets down there. Palo can penetrate but always shoots when he gets down low.

The problem with this team is that they have one player who can drive and make a good pass to an open shooter, and that's White. ISU had 9 assists all game yesterday. People on this board love to rip Diante Garrett but ISU consistently had like 20 assists a game last year, and that's because he had the ballhandling skills and court vision to make the correct drive and make the correct pass.

For the type of offense ISU wants to play, Diante Garrett was a great player. We miss him dearly and will miss him all season. There is talent on this team, but it's not talent that is used to having the ball in their hands, or is at their best with the ball in their hands. Those guys are hard to find and procure, and it shows.

ISU going 1-on-1 this year is a great recipe for them shooting 40% from the field and 25% from three and losing to any team with a pulse.


There is no way to play the game the "right" way, and this game was not "meant" to be played any one way. I'm sorry but that's just stupid thinking. One of the things I love about sports is a diversity of playstyles and seeing how they match up.

[cydave]

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Dave...if you're going to come on a message board called "Panther Nation" with a "CyDave" username on the night UNI beats ISU for the 5th time in 6 years, you're going to hear some smack.

Oh no doubt, I expect smack talk when I come here. But, like I said in my previous post, if you're going to talk smack at least get your facts straight. You sound really ignorant when you talk smack.
Comparing this team to a "classic ISU team" from the last 4 coaches in ISU's history is a bit ignorant.

As for the list of top HS talent that went on to have good success, I don't feel like thinking very hard right now, but lets just go back a couple of years to Craig Brackins. He did pretty well at ISU and was a first round draft pick. That's not too shabby.

[porkchop]

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He did play well but lets not get too excited. I need to see another move besides the baby hook and some consistent good games before I jump on that bandwagon. Taking nothing away from what he did tonight but I not quite buying just yet.

I'll take the baby hook all day if that means teams are going to double him and leave a guy open for the outlet pass. One move and drawing attention is far better than no move and fouling every minute of play.

[Panther-at-Arms]

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I'll take the baby hook all day if that means teams are going to double him and leave a guy open for the outlet pass. One move and drawing attention is far better than no move and fouling every minute of play.

He even said in the paper that the hook is pretty much his only move. He said his plan is to keep doing it until someone stops him, then figure something else out.