Hope

[Trapped in California]

Re: Hope

Bo also lacks anything approaching an offensive end of the game. Sorry, he's like Dennis Rodman without the rebounding or the hair.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Hope

hes a freshman guard at UNI. how many big offensive contributors have we had that fit that description?

[06panther10]

hes a freshman guard at UNI. how many big offensive contributors have we had that fit that description?

How many have gotten as many minutes as Matt is probably the question you should ask.

[BCPanther]

Re: Hope

How many have gotten as many minutes as Matt is probably the question you should ask.

Ben Jacobson, Brooks McKowen, Kwadzo Ahelegbe, Marc Sonnen would be close.

All of those turned out just fine, as will Bo.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Hope

How many have gotten as many minutes as Matt is probably the question you should ask.

his numbers are fairly close to brooks' and better than kwadzo's

[jegbomb52]

Re: Hope

You're just pissed you can't go to StL and are kind of hoping we lose on Thursday night so you don't 'miss' anything...

on the contrary, I have made the choice to not go to St. Louis, not to mention the fact that if we do play on Thursday we wouldn't lose until we were the noon whipping boy for WSU or Creighton....

Kind of funny that you think the reason I go to the conference tournament is for the basketball

oh, and to comment on what I disagree with wasn't in your post, it was in the title of the thread.

[06panther10]

Ben Jacobson, Brooks McKowen, Kwadzo Ahelegbe, Marc Sonnen would be close.

All of those turned out just fine, as will Bo.

-Benny--12 ppg as a freshman.
-Brooks--8 ppg as a starting freshman PG.
-Kwadzo--3 ppg in 14 min
-Sonnen--3 ppg in just 11 min

Benny and Brooks were highly productive starters with heavy minutes as freshman. Kwadzo and Marc had much lesser roles but still contributed.

I think we need to see more production out of Bo for how many minutes he is playing (starting/first off bench), particularly shooting and making 3's.

IMO...

[BCPanther]

Re: Hope

Kind of funny that you think the reason I go to the conference tournament is for the basketball

oh, and to comment on what I disagree with wasn't in your post, it was in the title of the thread.

Amen!

Gotcha!

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Hope

-Benny--12 ppg as a freshman.
-Brooks--8 ppg as a starting freshman PG.
-Kwadzo--3 ppg in 14 min
-Sonnen--3 ppg in just 11 min

Benny and Brooks were highly productive starters with heavy minutes as freshman. Kwadzo and Marc had much lesser roles but still contributed.

I think we need to see more production out of Bo for how many minutes he is playing (starting/first off bench), particularly shooting and making 3's.

IMO...

I think it will come for him IF he can learn to catch and shoot. There is a reason he is deadly in warm ups and practice and yet often misses wildly in games...defensive pressure closing speed of the defense. He is still looking for that spot up 3 he got in high school. I don't doubt he can make those with regularity. He has a nice shot form wise, he just needs to speed it up about 3x faster. Sonnen has gotten much better at this over his career and I hope Bo does too.

[hoopfan]

Re: Hope

i dont see many defensive deficiencies with bohannon at all. hes not quick laterally but he knows where to be on the court and really hustles which is pretty much exactly jake wants.

Agree for the most part. I think he gets sucked in a step or two further than he needs to when he is off the ball which causes problems for him when he closes out on a shooter. He is either half a step slow getting back or out of control getting back and gets blown by.

The kid works hard though and is going to be a solid 4 year performer for UNI. I envision him to be a bigger, stronger version of Ali. People need to remember he is a freshman who is struggling a bit on both ends. Buss is in his 3rd year in the program and is a complete liability on defense. The last game he saw minutes in, he stood under the basket while the opposition drove from the wing. If he takes one step he draws an easy charge. If he jumps, he gets a block. The problem was he didn't move and allowed an easy layup and no help D.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Hope

I think it will come for him IF he can learn to catch and shoot. There is a reason he is deadly in warm ups and practice and yet often misses wildly in games...defensive pressure closing speed of the defense. He is still looking for that spot up 3 he got in high school. I don't doubt he can make those with regularity. He has a nice shot form wise, he just needs to speed it up about 3x faster. Sonnen has gotten much better at this over his career and I hope Bo does too.

this is the biggest adjustment for most shooters when they start playing in college. the other is going to be shooting 35 minutes into a game when you are gassed like never before.

[UNIGrainer]

Re: Hope

You are absolutely crazy if you think we don't have a very good chance at playing on Thursday. I mean like Wichita delusional. I'm not saying we're a lock, but you are crazy if you think our chances are less than 1%. And what about what we have done so far makes you think we will end up ahead of Evansville who has beaten us at our place and has beaten Wichita and is two full games ahead of us right now.

I put our chances of playing on Thursday night at less than 1%. Missouri State, Drake, and Southern Illinois are locks in my mind and the other one will be either Bradley or Illinois State.

If I had to project the tourney today, I would go--
1- Creighton
2- Wichita State
3- Indiana State
4- UNI
5- Evansville
6- Bradley
7- Illinois State
8- Missouri State
9- Southern Illinois
10-Drake

[UNIGrainer]

Re: Hope

I see it this way. We have to get to 9-9 to feel good about being in the top six (last year a 9-9 team, Drake, actually played on Thursday). So for every home game we lose we have to win a road game. Last year we went 2-7 on the road in the league and 7-2 at home to get to 9-9. We've already lost home games to Indiana State and Evansville and haven't played Wichita or Crayton at home yet.

Right now we are 1-2 at home and 1-2 on the road. We still have to play Wichita and Crayton at home and will likely lose both of those, but lets say we win one of them. After the losses we have had at home, are wins over Drake, MSU, SIU and IlSU locks? I would say absolutely not. But lets say that we do split with Wichita and Crayton and win the other four games at home. We still would have to find two road wins to get to 9-9. We play at Drake, MSU, SIU, Indy State (who already beat us at our place), Evill (who beat WSU at home and already beat us at our place) and Bradley on the road. Can we win two of those games? Maybe. But if we don't split with WSU and Crayton and lost both, then we have to win 3. If we lose another home game, then we have to win four. And that is just to get to 9-9. To get ahead of Evansville and get 4th, that is a whole nuther ballgame.

[BCPanther]

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I see it this way. We have to get to 9-9 to feel good about being in the top six (last year a 9-9 team, Drake, actually played on Thursday). So for every home game we lose we have to win a road game. Last year we went 2-7 on the road in the league and 7-2 at home to get to 9-9. We've already lost home games to Indiana State and Evansville and haven't played Wichita or Crayton at home yet.

Right now we are 1-2 at home and 1-2 on the road. We still have to play Wichita and Crayton at home and will likely lose both of those, but lets say we win one of them. After the losses we have had at home, are wins over Drake, MSU, SIU and IlSU locks? I would say absolutely not. But lets say that we do split with Wichita and Crayton and win the other four games at home. We still would have to find two road wins to get to 9-9. We play at Drake, MSU, SIU, Indy State (who already beat us at our place), Evill (who beat WSU at home and already beat us at our place) and Bradley on the road. Can we win two of those games? Maybe. But if we don't split with WSU and Crayton and lost both, then we have to win 3. If we lose another home game, then we have to win four. And that is just to get to 9-9. To get ahead of Evansville and get 4th, that is a whole nuther ballgame.

First, I am not even close to Wichita delusional...

Second, we are finally playing good basketball, if we can continue to play at the level we played on Tuesday night, we are going to win a bunch of games here. The schedule really favors us for the next two weeks and we need to take advantage. There is 2/3s of the Valley season left and outside of the top two, everything is incredibly fluid. We could realistically finish anywhere from 3rd to 8th, but I think this team has kind of found itself. I honestly believe we will be wearing white jerseys on Friday in StL...

[Waverly_Panther]

Re: Hope

Agree for the most part. I think he gets sucked in a step or two further than he needs to when he is off the ball which causes problems for him when he closes out on a shooter. He is either half a step slow getting back or out of control getting back and gets blown by.

The kid works hard though and is going to be a solid 4 year performer for UNI. I envision him to be a bigger, stronger version of Ali. People need to remember he is a freshman who is struggling a bit on both ends. Buss is in his 3rd year in the program and is a complete liability on defense. The last game he saw minutes in, he stood under the basket while the opposition drove from the wing. If he takes one step he draws an easy charge. If he jumps, he gets a block. The problem was he didn't move and allowed an easy layup and no help D.

I was going to comment on this exact same play. He had lost his man and was drifting around, not hustling to get on the guy he should have been on, ended up under the basket and did nothing when a guy drove the lane. That one play sums up a lot of what I've seen from his defense this year.