Would we be on the bubble....

[BCPanther]

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If we win out to Sunday, our resume will be better than VCUs two years ago.

We still won't get in...

[PantherHawk]

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I said in the Drake thread that I think this scenario would put us on the bubble, it's good to see a big ESPN guy agree. Really it's almost a lose-lose situation with the Valley scheduling Arch Madness. Do you want to schedule a week before the big guys so you can be seen, or do you want to play the championship on Selection Sunday and be overshadowed by the power conferences?

Didn't they play on the weekend of the big dogs one year? Maybe I am thinking of something else, but I remember them being on CBS right before the Big Ten Championship.

Was the reason so they could get on CBS, I used to like it on Monday nights on ESPN, that was cool (but understand why) they moved it to CBS.

If they win out and lose in the Valley Championship they will be on the bubble (it will depend on how the BCS conferences shake out and how the other mid major conferences do) But they should be in if they do that.

[9YRPLAN]

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If we win out to Sunday, our resume will be better than VCUs two years ago.

We still won't get in...

we really lack that one signature win, unfortunately.

[jnutt]

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if there wasn't a boner for "jump balls" and they call the foul in Louisville...signature win...better loss after that...ok, I'll stop

[CyCarp]

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Didn't they play on the weekend of the big dogs one year? Maybe I am thinking of something else, but I remember them being on CBS right before the Big Ten Championship.

Was the reason so they could get on CBS, I used to like it on Monday nights on ESPN, that was cool (but understand why) they moved it to CBS.

If they win out and lose in the Valley Championship they will be on the bubble (it will depend on how the BCS conferences shake out and how the other mid major conferences do) But they should be in if they do that.

I don't remember it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I do remember the Monday nights. If we win out and win Friday in St Louis, I really hope we're we get CU or WSU on Saturday. Barring something crazy, both of those two are going to be in, a win over one of those two would mean much more than ISUblue, at least in my opinion. I really don't care which seed we get, just prefer it shakes out this way to help any chance of an at large.

[JayJ79]

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and if any number of about a dozen plays hadn't gone in our favor in 2005, UNI football wouldn't have even made the playoffs that year.

[Kyle]

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St. Mary's had the potential to be our signature win, but they just couldn't knock off Gonzaga.

They still have a chance to creep into the top 25 by seasons end, but they will have to win out which includes a win against CU.

[Spathicle]

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I would argue that any two of our losses turned into W's would put is IN at this point. Either scratch two bad losses or add two good wins and we look a whole lot better. That and 9 looks soo much better than 11...

All we have to do is win the rest of our games and we will be national champs!

[orangetennis]

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I looked at the chat with Joe Lunardi and here is his comment on UNI:

Imagine that Northern Iowa wins out the remaining 4 regular season games and then loses to WSU in the Valley title game. Enough of a finish to get at large? (assume they beat the BlueJays in the semifinals)
Joe Lunardi (3:17 PM)

Would be very, very close. One worry: I've come to think the week-early MVC tournament is a negative for the league's bubble teams. There's almost been an "out of sight, out of mind" effect.

I tend to agree with this. I understand why the league does it, but I believe it hurts the league's at large chances.

[Codytwo]

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Right now Indiana State is 64th in RPI and UNI is 68th in RPI. Indiana State's SOS is 58th and UNI's SOS is 55th.

Yesterday Lunardi updated his Bracketology and put Indiana State as one of the First Four Out. Although Indiana State has owned us, I have to believe that we would enter the bubble conversation with a win against Denver.

[Born-a-Panther]

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and if any number of about a dozen plays hadn't gone in our favor in 2005, UNI football wouldn't have even made the playoffs that year.

That season was largely heart and luck and the never-say-die attitude of our senior leaders.

[Born-a-Panther]

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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...cb&id=8967152&

Northern Iowa Surging After Early Struggles

[ceaser150]

Re: Would we be on the bubble....

Right now Indiana State is 64th in RPI and UNI is 68th in RPI. Indiana State's SOS is 58th and UNI's SOS is 55th.

Yesterday Lunardi updated his Bracketology and put Indiana State as one of the First Four Out. Although Indiana State has owned us, I have to believe that we would enter the bubble conversation with a win against Denver.

Problem is ISU has a signature win against Miami, probably a #1 seed. We have nothing close to that. I would guess that is the difference.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Problem is ISU has a signature win against Miami, probably a #1 seed. We have nothing close to that. I would guess that is the difference.

Although I wouldn't put us ahead of ISUb necessarily right now (my opinion changes if we keep this streak running into the weekend of Arch Madness), I hate the idea of "signature wins" or "bad losses" - that's BCS conference speak for "your conferences aren't as good as ours, so you have to win a big game whenever you have it to be considered". A team making it or not making it should be on their body of work over the entire season, if they have figured things out and are making it click at the right time (leading up to the tourney), and what kind of performance the committee thinks they could expect from them/how competitive they would be. This "signature win" stuff is bullcrap - let's see the Sycamores play Miami now, when Miami looks incredible, and not back at the beginning of the season when teams are finding themselves - the Hurricanes would smoke them now, IMO. Anyone can win in college basketball on a given night if one team gets exceptionally hot or another plays a horrible game...precisely the reason we can't make decisions on these isolated moments in time.

[Khan4Cats]

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We will be talked about as on the bubble because we are a solid team. But we will also be dismissed because, while we played a good schedule and don't really have "bad" losses (as long as Evansville finishes decent), we also did not win those big games. The home win over St. Mary's is nice, the game this Saturday could also be a nice one, as well as the WSU and Cu wins. But that is it. The talking heads will bring our name up as an example of a team that is "almost" there but won't make the cut. I'd love for the committee to make a statement and pick us based on our attempt to schedule tough, but I just don't see any reason why they would just on that.