Looking Forward: 2013-2014

[06panther10]

Re: Looking Forward: 2013-2014

Just some random thoughts as we head into the off season...

Listening to Coach Jake talk to Rima last week after the game, I got the impression that he is really excited about this incoming class for next year. Spoke specifically about Morgan and Friedman about what they can bring to our team next year. It will be interesting to see exactly what we can get out of the freshman, and which one's will be ready to really contribute. If Friedman and Morgan can be good players for us next year from day 1, we have a chance to be pretty damn good.

Jake also talked about Wes quite bit and spoke quite highly of him from what he has done during this year sitting out, and what he can potentially bring to the floor next year with his athleticism. He talked specifically about him running the open floor with Deon and how that could be a big weapon for us.

I know the conversation of "we are really going to run a floor a lot more this year" comes up EVERY year before the season, and its mostly BS and never happens. I really wonder if we might actually see a real change in the style of basketball we play next season, mainly offensively. If you look at the personnel that we are expecting to have next year, I really feel that team is built to play a faster tempo offensively. Running the floor with Deon, Wes, Tuttle, Morgan with Bo knocking down shots. That could be a very good offensive team, IMO.

Anyways, was just thinking about our team after watching WSU finally go down. WSU will be a heavy favorite going into next year, but after that the league is wide open IMO. I hope we can put together a team that can compete at the top of the league despite the youth.

[GoPanthers85]

Re: Looking Forward: 2013-2014

Just some random thoughts as we head into the off season...

Listening to Coach Jake talk to Rima last week after the game, I got the impression that he is really excited about this incoming class for next year. Spoke specifically about Morgan and Friedman about what they can bring to our team next year. It will be interesting to see exactly what we can get out of the freshman, and which one's will be ready to really contribute. If Friedman and Morgan can be good players for us next year from day 1, we have a chance to be pretty damn good.

Jake also talked about Wes quite bit and spoke quite highly of him from what he has done during this year sitting out, and what he can potentially bring to the floor next year with his athleticism. He talked specifically about him running the open floor with Deon and how that could be a big weapon for us.

I know the conversation of "we are really going to run a floor a lot more this year" comes up EVERY year before the season, and its mostly BS and never happens. I really wonder if we might actually see a real change in the style of basketball we play next season, mainly offensively. If you look at the personnel that we are expecting to have next year, I really feel that team is built to play a faster tempo offensively. Running the floor with Deon, Wes, Tuttle, Morgan with Bo knocking down shots. That could be a very good offensive team, IMO.

Anyways, was just thinking about our team after watching WSU finally go down. WSU will be a heavy favorite going into next year, but after that the league is wide open IMO. I hope we can put together a team that can compete at the top of the league despite the youth.

I personally thought us getting Friedman was a huge get, just as big as Morgan! He brings good size and solid defense.

As far as the league race next year, it won't be as one sided as you think. Don't forget that ISU blue returns just about everybody from last year, so they will be one of the favorites next year. Plus we can't forget about the Blue Jays! Oh wait, yes we can! I think those two teams will be picked to win the league with us 4th behind Missouri St.

[BCPanther]

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Indiana State died down the stretch and lost Mahurin. They will be picked 2nd but won't finish anywhere near there. We'll be picked 3rd.

[Codytwo]

Re: Looking Forward: 2013-2014

Indiana State died down the stretch and lost Mahurin. They will be picked 2nd but won't finish anywhere near there. We'll be picked 3rd.

You really think we'll be picked 3rd after losing Koch, James, and Sonnen? Where will less disbanded teams like Missouri State be picked?

[Silent Earl]

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Personally I'm not looking forward to 2013-14. We lose so much, I see it as a complete rebuilding year. Expect our worst team under Jake. Hopefully all these freshmen we are going to have to rely on improve vastly and are able to return us to competitiveness as sophomores in 2014-2015.

But what do I know, hopefully I'm completely wrong.

[SpanishMoon]

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MacDougall is a prefered walk on from Cedar Rapids Prairie. He red shirted this year.

I am asking because I do not know...Is there such a thing as unpreferred walk on? Like a guy walks on but they don't really want him there?
Sorry I should say nonprefered.

[06panther10]

Re: Looking Forward: 2013-2014

You really think we'll be picked 3rd after losing Koch, James, and Sonnen? Where will less disbanded teams like Missouri State be picked?

Come on people. Missouri State was 11-22 last year. 11-22!! We lose some good players, but we also bring back some really good players as well. There is no way we are getting picked behind MSU.

Personally I'm not looking forward to 2013-14. We lose so much, I see it as a complete rebuilding year. Expect our worst team under Jake. Hopefully all these freshmen we are going to have to rely on improve vastly and are able to return us to competitiveness as sophomores in 2014-2015.

But what do I know, hopefully I'm completely wrong.

I think we are pretty much past the point in our program where we have "complete rebuilding years". Some years will be better than others, but we have been "good" every year under Jake and we will be good again next year.

We return a veteran PG and a veteran post, both of whom are among the best in the league. Expectations within our program are to compete near the top of the league every season, and I expect no different next year.

[Kyle]

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This class reminds me of the 2011 class with Seth, Deon, and Matt.

Deon came in with a ton of hype because of his high major offers, much like Morgan. Everyone said Seth was a steal, but his national profile wasn't great, similar to Friedman. We snagged Matt from some solid mid-major schools, just like Knar.

If Morgan and Friedman are contribute immediately, just like Deon and Seth, we'll be in for a fun season.

[DownGoesKansas]

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This class reminds me of the 2011 class with Seth, Deon, and Matt.

Deon came in with a ton of hype because of his high major offers, much like Morgan. Everyone said Seth was a steal, but his national profile wasn't great, similar to Friedman. We snagged Matt from some solid mid-major schools, just like Knar.

If Morgan and Friedman are contribute immediately, just like Deon and Seth, we'll be in for a fun season.

I agree, i expect both of them to start from day one. With another new guy (Washpun) being one of the first guys of the bench. It will be a different looking team, that is a certainty.

[Khan4Cats]

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Which do you think is the least impactful two-some of the next few classes?

2014-Morrison and Rank
2015-Tuttle and Mitchell (with Singleton and Buss?)
2016-Washpun and Bohannon (with Buss?)
2017-Morgan and Friedman (with Knar)
2018-Koch and Lohaus (with Carlson)

[achrist70]

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Next year is interesting for me we obviously have some pieces to fill and need some people to step up, but I don't think it is completely crazy to think that Seth and Deon could both be top 5 players in the league, I think that we can expect Matty Bo to be solid hopefully in the 9-10 ppg range. The real question marks come at the 4, Chip will give us everything he has, but he needs to shoot at a higher percentage than this year and Buss needs to take a big step and give us a bunch of quality minutes at both ends of the court. I also question what we get from Washpun, Morrison and Marvin, if they play big we win. Finally what do we get out of the freshman, right now I think that Morgan and Friedman will not redshirt without having a injury, and Knar is a tossup.


If this team can gel fast we could easily finish in the top 2 in the Valley so many teams loose so much, and I think Indiana St. will disappoint, but they will go through some growing pains early, luckily we don't play the #1 team in the nation game #4

[williebat]

Next year is interesting for me we obviously have some pieces to fill and need some people to step up, but I don't think it is completely crazy to think that Seth and Deon could both be top 5 players in the league, I think that we can expect Matty Bo to be solid hopefully in the 9-10 ppg range. The real question marks come at the 4, Chip will give us everything he has, but he needs to shoot at a higher percentage than this year and Buss needs to take a big step and give us a bunch of quality minutes at both ends of the court. I also question what we get from Washpun, Morrison and Marvin, if they play big we win. Finally what do we get out of the freshman, right now I think that Morgan and Friedman will not redshirt without having a injury, and Knar is a tossup.


If this team can gel fast we could easily finish in the top 2 in the Valley so many teams loose so much, and I think Indiana St. will disappoint, but they will go through some growing pains early, luckily we don't play the #1 team in the nation game #4

I agree next year is tut and Deon's turn to lead the team. I think we may see huge years from both.

[UNIhoops]

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IF we played a zone would we be making different predictions for next year? I feel like we could play more freshmen and Buss if we played a zone. I understand Jacobson's defensive system has got us to the 20 wins a year + Sweet 16, but just wondering. Buss, Singleton, and Rank would all be better suited to play the bottom sides of a 2-3 zone. We might give up an extra 10 points from playing zone, but I think Buss could get us that 10 points + more back on offense.

[Chitown Panther]

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Fellas, I think Tuttle is REAL Good. But remember...if the 2nd tallest player on the court for us is 6'6"....Tuttle's job is gonna be tough...

Stating the obvious here but Buss, Singleton, Rank, Morgan, Friedman....one of them needs to have ridiculously consistent year....

[Codytwo]

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Fellas, I think Tuttle is REAL Good. But remember...if the 2nd tallest player on the court for us is 6'6"....Tuttle's job is gonna be tough...

Stating the obvious here but Buss, Singleton, Rank, Morgan, Friedman....one of them needs to have ridiculously consistent year....

I agree. Jake Koch struggled greatly after O'Rear went down due to the fact that his role changed. Now that happened in the middle of the season, whereas this time we have a whole offseason to prepare for the change.